This is an edited version of the Diplo webcast from July 2, with added captions. While there is a lot of attention on the GDC, in practical terms, if concluded and ratified, this may be the more impactful treaty. However its glaring flaws, both in human rights safeguards, and potential for overreach, may leave it dead in the water unless states work things out. Great commentary from the experts, who alternate between hope and resignation. As the Microsoft speaker points out, it is not so often civil society and industry find themselves on the same page! A transcript will be posted on the archive. 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