Re Galen Panger's comment on the list: "I actually thought the article was hyperbolic, and I felt disappointed to see it get so much attention. I think there is reason for some concern, I would have liked to see the evidence presented less selectively and one-sidedly." Heartedly agree. Keith Hampton and I have an article asserting that each generation thinks that community has been lost as compared to the previous one. Now, it is mobile phones. Two decades ago, it was the internet. You can keep tracing this back to Tommy Jefferson in 1787. And perhaps further. Barry Wellman A vision is just a vision if it's only in your head Step by step, link by link, putting it together Streisand/Sondheim _______________________________________________________________________ NetLab Network FRSC INSNA Founder http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman twitter: @barrywellman NETWORKED: The New Social Operating System Lee Rainie & Barry Wellman http://amzn.to/zXZg39 _______________________________________________________________________