the sole problem, from my analysis of the wide variety of aup available from around the world, is that each governs part, but not all of the network after a certain point of plurality. because of this, even though we can speak of an nsfnet aup, it may have been possible even that time to use nsfnet without being necessarily bound by that policy because of interconnections between networks, maybe not even physically, but functionally, such as a fidonet message passed between two nsfnet hosts. so it would have been possible to transmit a forsale message, a commercial venture, without breaking the aup. so aup's might be better understood within a framework of interdependence and in most cases only applicable in extreme cases. I would love to here of incidents where breach of nsfnet policy was prosecuted in any manner. there has to be some incidents. jeremy hunsinger jhuns@vt.edu on the ibook www.cddc.vt.edu www.cddc.vt.edu/jeremy www.dromocracy.com