See Bob Cannon's 2002 paper, "Will the Real Internet Please Stand Up?": http://tprc.org/papers/2002/165/RealInternet.htm Note especially his conclusion, and the postscript. DLB On 20 Mar 2005, jeremy hunsinger wrote:
many of the descriptions so far take 'communication' as a the noun, and while this is fine for some descriptions of some events, it tends to leave out much of the rest of the ecological systems that these in which these technics are enmeshed. the objects that barry brought up, were systems and technologies, onto which communication can be mapped, onto which media can be mapped, but I think it should be very obvious that when we are talking about their whole existence, from their origination to their use, that not every part of that will be mapped by communication and/or media. most, but perhaps not all of their human use could be said to be communication, but... what about installation, and interface, they seem to be mediated experiences that don't always pertain directly to communication, and while they might be mediated by speaker or screen, that mediation might not encapsulate the whole social imaginary that affects the world in which they are used.
the internet is the general network we study, which is a network of networks, built on the principle that information can be encapsulated in packets, and routed by defining the endpoint, thus allowing the computers or relevant technologies to communicate. computers and technologies have devices that mediate the information that they receive into user accessible experiences. this is true insofaras I can determine, so internet technologies will always be information technologies, mediated technologies, and communication technologies in some respect. however, the technologies exist through society, and individuals, both simplisticly as objects, but also in much more complicated ways, that affect our lives, cultures, etc. -- our mental ecology, our social ecology, and our environmental ecology.
so, that's why I use "ICT" and then describe what I'm talking about further should the need arise. On Mar 20, 2005, at 4:05 AM, richard-seyler.ling@telenor.com wrote:
Wouldn't a type of overly technical description be IP mediated communication? All the things you describe are IP based and go via the Internet. Yet they are communication (in the social sense of the word).
Using IP mediated communication would allow us the fun of coining a new acronym like IPMC or IPMECOM or IPCOM that only the cognicenti understand for awhile.
I note, however, that your discussion does not necessarily include mobile communication. For that we would need another acronym like MOMECOM for mobile mediated communication.
Rich L.
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org]On Behalf Of Barry Wellman Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 16:45 PM To: aoir list Subject: [Air-l] we need a new word?
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
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