How disappointing it is to discover that there are researchers here who do not know the simple meaning of the definitions "theocracy", "apartheid", "genocide" and more... maybe they think that "when Palestine will be free" (free of who? All of us Jews living here?) there will be no homophobia, xenophobia and lack of democracy in it. Oh wait, actually they will probably execute people there without trial and throw gays from rooftops as is happening today. The State of Israel will stand for many good years to come, in its morality, despite the ignorance directed towards it by people who are in the comfort of their homes thousands of kilometers away from it and do not face missiles that have been falling on them for twenty years from a land they have completely left. בתאריך יום ג׳, 23 בינו׳ 2024, 23:37, מאת Horacio Espinosa via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org>:
The only statement I could support regarding the genocide carried out by Israel against the Palestinian people is one that includes the following points:
1) An immediate end to all aggression against the Gaza Strip by Israel.
2) An immediate end to all military aid to Israel by the European Union and the United States.
3) The demand for the absolute respect of the UN resolutions systematically breached by the xenophobic, supremacist, racist and theocratic state of Israel.
4) The support of this group to the demand of South Africa to judge the government of Israel for Genocide.
Any other statement does not have my support.
Regards and free Palestine,
Horacio
El mar, 23 ene 2024 a las 8:32, Serhat Tutkal via Air-L (< air-l@listserv.aoir.org>) escribió:
Dr. Vikki Katz,
I see that you take the silence of most participants as a sign of support to your position in the issue. I am of the opinion that the aggressive and insulting responses have rightly dissuaded most people from participating in the discussion. In any case, at this point the only possible action regarding an AoIR statement is, as Dr. Sinnreich stated, to wait for an official proposal by the AoIR Executive Committee.
Dr. Aouragh, on the other hand, has never suggested that some people write a statement and force it to the rest of the AoIR members as a joint statement. I fear that singling her out in this way for an email prior to your last message can lead to making her a target for mass harassment. I sure hope that this was not your aim, but it is always good to be extra careful during discussions about mass violence.
I will repost what I had previously shared regarding the discussions. I wrote it three months ago, but I am not seeing new arguments, so I think it is still a good enough response to colleagues who are genuinely asking for elaboration: https://academicborderlands.substack.com/p/the-noise-of-state-violence
In the end, I am not that interested in whether AoIR will make a statement or not. I was more interested in the discussion. As it frequently happens, I am disappointed in the results.
Dr. Serhat Tutkal
El lun, 22 ene 2024 a las 15:56, Katz, Vikki via Air-L (< air-l@listserv.aoir.org>) escribió:
Miriyam: It seems to me that Sky was assessing AoIR members' support for making a statement, and from the responses to their initial message, the support for such a statement is mixed at best.
If you are suggesting taking the conversation into a private forum to craft a statement that represents the individuals involved in drafting such a statement rather than AoIR as a whole, that is of course your right. If you are suggesting doing so in order to present some kind of finished product to a membership where a minority of people have weighed in with vastly different viewpoints, that strikes me as neither transparent nor democratic.
Vikki
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Thank you for your message Sky, Thanks for your bravery and please don’t despair. I was initially shocked by the silence here, but soon didn’t expect much else because the moral arguments has led to trench tactics in a lot of formal spaces but also in the general catch-22 (risk being called antisemitic/condoning Hamas is a real concern for poc and junior academics). What is indeed different is that this has especially dominated professional academic spaces—previously the purvey of critical, anti-war, transgressive, intellectual thinking. We can see the impact of decades of neoliberalism and managerial task forces. But thankfully our professional groups are not a barometer. Obviously the rift between ordinary peoples - both in the UK and across the world and our institutions/politicians - has never been this wide. It’s exactly as Adi Kuntsman outlines, for which I thank them, by creating a false Us vs Them framework and by disseminating government-echoed hasbara that is delivered as ordinary voices, merely concern, the discussions are derailed before they even started. but as Adi reminds, this is totally expected so thank you for reminding us to not waste our time on this too much. As someone who works on this, Hasbara<
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<https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19436149.2016.1179432>> is essentially a form of gaslighting/distracting so we focus on defending, explaining and retorting this and that, instead of working in our union branches build solidarity and in our community collectives to increase justice. Let us by all means organise and mobilise, share petitions and sign them, but let us not mistakenly think that any form of liberation comes from discursive struggles where we try to convince people on mailing lists. Probably the best is for those who do want to think further, to contact you directly, and then together with those who already responded positively, you reach out outside of this list, and we can all organise an online meeting to discuss what further options there are? I am happy to help. There are also those who tried to organise the MeCCSA letter about British coverage, they had to endure a lot of abuse, but still did an amazing job. Why not join forces as I see much overlap? I think this was the original letter and list of signatories, some are internet researchers
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via Air-L <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 12:52 To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org <air-l@listserv.aoir.org>, Ayelet Baram-Tsabari <ayelet@technion.ac.il> Subject: Re: [Air-L] The difficult conversation we don't seem to be having CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University. Do not click on any links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
Dear everyone A response like one by Ayelet below is expected - we hear it all too often in the heated international debate. "yes but". Somehow, the years of Israeli brutal occupation of Gaza and its military and economic control of it which has not at all stopped after Israel's so called "withdrawal"; and the 75-and-counting years of Israeli settler colonialism are conveniently omitted in the requests like this, to focus on what has "triggered" the war, as if the trigger happened in a vacuum.
No, I do not excuse Hamas or what happened in October. However, I do think Israel is a violent settler colonial state, ejoying international immpunity- for a very long time and especially in the last 3 months. Yes, the attack on Israelis on the 7th of October is beyond horrific and like many other people with Jewish/Israeli connections, I mourn every child, elder, family assaulted or displaced. But no, this does not excise the wipe out of lives, hopes, schools, hospitals, doctors, journalists in Gaza- not in the last three months and not before- and its a great shame to any Jewish person to allow this to be done in their name. I abhore Israel's manipulation of pain and death, and its abandonment of its own citizens including those the kidnapped. If anyone wants to bring up names and mourn Harry Potters -- which we should! ---make sure these aren't only limited to your own community. The faces and names of every Gazan child killed, and their devastated parents if they were lucky enough to survive, should haunt us all, if we have any humanty left in us. And yet I don't see their names on this thread
I shall stop here as the last thing I do is to have two Jewish people dominating the discussion about the horrendous level of violence which is inexcusable- but it was important for me to say this . in solidarityAdi
On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:43:11 AM GMT, Ayelet Baram-Tsabari via Air-L <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Dear Air-Ls, As you, I am worried about the loss of life in Gaza, but I cannot but wonder about the omission of the trigger for the war: In the wake of Saturday, October 7th, Israel was attacked by about 5000 Hamas terrorists, who systematically slaughtered and burned alive family after family in villages near the Gaza border, rapped women before killing them in the music festival in Re’im, and sadistically tortured kids in front of their parents. One of those murdered was Yasmin Zohar, a M.Sc. student of a friend of mine. Yasmin, her two daughters, her husband, and her father were all brutally slaughtered in their home in Kibbutz Nahal Oz that Saturday morning. Only her son Ariel, almost 13, survived. He moved to live with his uncles in the city of Rishon LeZion – where I grew up. So many Harry Potters were created that day. This is a complex situation with a long history. At the moment, Israel is responding to an immediate unprovoked terrorist attack against civilians by Hamas, who publicly promised to do that again. Looking at the affiliations of those responding in the list, I can safely say that your countries would have – and in fact have already done so in the past – reacted similarly to such attacks. Like you, I also follow with horror what happens in Gaza. But sometimes, it seems to me, that I care more about the hungry and futureless kids in Gaza, than the Western Pro-Palestinians protesters who, in fact, work hard to allow the continuation of Hamas control there. As I see it, this is practically like supporting the Taliban's control over Afghanistan instead of supporting Afghanis who try to get rid of the Taliban. Best Ayelet Baram-Tsabari Technion – Israel Institute of Technology
-----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Alia ElKattan via Air-L Sent: Monday, 22 January 2024 10:39 To: Sky Croeser <scroeser@gmail.com> Cc: Air-L <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] The difficult conversation we don't seem to be having
Thanks so much for this Sky.
Especially as every university in Gaza had been partially or fully destroyed, hundreds of professors and academics have been killed, and academic institutions outside Gaza have engaged in targeting and suppression of pro-Palestine speech, I am fully supportive of an academic boycott and a clear stance of public solidarity and action. Also interested in any research efforts to better understand internet research in the Palestinian context.
Given the online and livestreamed nature of this genocide where we've seen people telling us the horrific atrocities committed against them in real time on all our internet platforms, often followed by news of their murder, it is imperative for an association of internet researchers to take a stance.
Not to mention the nature of online suppression, disinformation, doxxing, and harassment that has been at the center of a campaign to justify and even celebrate the murder of over 30,000 people and the forced starvation and displacement of millions amidst an intentional destruction of lifesaving healthcare and telecommunication (including internet) facilities.
Thank you for initiating this, and please count me in for any efforts moving forward.
Best, Alia ElKattan NYU Politics PhD student
On Sun, 21 Jan 2024, 10:33 pm Sky Croeser via Air-L, < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
This is a difficult message to write, and I know that it will probably open some difficult conversations. I realised this morning that I was shying away from having these conversations because I don’t want to create problems for the many colleagues who I respect and am fond of within AoIR. And while I do care about all of you, sometimes care means being brave (and perhaps annoying) instead of being polite.
So. We need to talk about Gaza. And we need to talk about Israel. Many of us have been speaking up individually, but our voices have more power when we bring them together. I have signed on to other open letters, but I think there are also important reasons for the Association of Internet Researchers to take a stance.
*What I am suggesting?*
I am asking for us to have a discussion about some form of public solidarity with Palestinians who are currently under attack, and with those within Israel and around the world who are speaking up against the actions of the Israeli state.
It might involve a statement of solidarity for those who are under attack in Gaza and other parts of Palestine, and for people engaged in non-violent resistance to the actions of the Israeli state. It might involve joining the international call for an academic boycott of Israeli institutions complicit in the ongoing violence against Palestinians (the guidelines for which are available here < https://prot/ ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com %2
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). It might involve a commitment to ask our own academic institutions to cut their ties with the Israeli state. It might take some other format.
*Why now?*
There are many acts of violence and oppression happening around the world. Why should our academic organisation speak up on this, specifically?
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, exceeding that of any recent armed conflict. There is no end in sight, and the deliberate restriction of food, water, and medicine means that people within Gaza face starvation and disease as well as bombing and other forms of direct violence.
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“has met with Israeli relatives of hostages held by Hamas and assured them that she will continue to use Australia’s voice to call for the immediate, unconditional and safe return of all hostages” and affirmed Australian support for Israel, while only “raising concerns” about the humanitarian situation in Gaza. Australia has also supported the US/UK bombing of Yemen < https://prot/ ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com %2 Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__
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in retailation for their disruption of shipping routes to Israel. Where our own governments will not speak up for human rights, we have an obligation to raise our voices.
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“is committed to the most fundamental principles of academic freedom, equality of opportunity, and human dignity.” The last university in Gaza has now been destroyed < https://prot/ ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com %2 Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__
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have gone unheeded.
Because the digital technologies that many of us research are woven through this conflict. Israeli authorities are using facial recognition technology < https://prot/ ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com %2 Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__
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to entrench apartheid. The Israeli military is using an “AI” system to “generate targets” < https://prot/ ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com %2 Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__
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, making it difficult for people in Gaza to communicate while under attack. Large tech companies have been providing key systems to the Israeli government < https://prot/ ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com %2
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Because Israeli citizens who protest < https://prot/ ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com %2 Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__
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. They deserve our support and solidarity.
*Why **are we** silent?*
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have included “Revolutions” and “Decolonising the Internet”. My sense is that there was also a response and a discussion within the organisation to the Black Lives Matter movement, among other issues.
Of course, I am aware that academic organisations will not often respond to international events. Perhaps the silence so far is entirely for this reason. Perhaps we are afraid that if we speak up on this we will also be asked to speak about Sudan, Congo, and other issues (would that be terrible?)
However, I think that we must also acknowledge the chilling effect that many academics and others experience specifically on the matter of Israel.
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