This does not just affect one corporation. The ruling, and precedent, will benefit HathiTrust too. About HathiTrust: http://www.hathitrust.org/partnership --- C. Sean Burns, PhD | Assistant Professor School of Library and Information Science University of Kentucky 327 Little Library Building | Lexington, KY 40506-0224 Phone +1 859-218-2296 | Fax +1 859-257-4205 https://ci.uky.edu/lis/ http://cseanburns.net/journal/ Alex Leavitt <alexleavitt@gmail.com> wrote: Just to be clear, my happiness is more driven by the fact that there's now one more point in case law to references for future related issues. Alexander Leavitt PhD Student USC Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism http://alexleavitt.com Twitter: @alexleavitt <http://twitter.com/alexleavitt> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Rex Troumbley <rextroumbley@gmail.com>wrote:
I'll share in the mixed feelings, but add that I too am a bit worried about commercializing access under one corporation that is only 15 years old. What happens to these scans when Google goes out of business or goes bankrupt?
Also, If I understand correctly, part of the reason Google has been scanning books is to help develop their semantic search engine and to help Google Translate, both of which require a lot of written language. The scan quality of the books is often too low for preservation, but just good enough for OCR. I'm an advocate of Free Culture too, but Google isn't free (even if its costs are often hidden) and I can't help wondering whether letting Google handle the digitization and distribution of books is really the best we can do?
Rex Troumbley, PhD Candidate Department of Political Science University of Hawaii at Manoa
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Dan L. Burk <dburk@uci.edu> wrote:
I imagine that after eight years of this, Judge Chin understands Google's business model(s) very well.
The question "do they sell the scans" is a different question than "do they make money/expect to make money off the database."
DLB
I'm somewhat conflicted about this. While I'm generally glad to see fair use expanded, I think the judge misunderstood Google's business model when citing in favor of fair use that Google "does not sell the scans". They clearly wouldn't do it if they were not convinced that making these books searchable is adding to their bottom-line by
refining
user profiles.
Felix
On 11/14/2013 06:39 PM, Dan L. Burk wrote:
I am so, so happy about this. Big win for the Free Culture movement.
I am not sure I would go that far. You still end up a very
significant
body of human knowledge controlled by a not-necessarily-benign corporation with a tendency toward information monopoly.
But Judge Chin's decision is the right one, and puts us on a much better road than the alternative.
DLB
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