Dear Eero and others, I read our posting with interest.. but got a bit confused and puzzled... as an offspring of the rather intensive debate on Space/Cyberspace/Setting/whatever you seem to bash all of this and afrgue for a more practical research on INternet issues... why not, besides it being already there, I can not follow the point of that all of this discussion is useless - you did not say so, but it clearly sounded like that. In order to understand what we are researching, how we conceptualize the object of our studies, it seems far from necessary to abondon this kind of thinking and debate, but put it in perspective and combine it... I might did get you wrong, but I would argue in favor of such a debate and therefore the necessity of such a roundtable.. also covering your critique of the whole debate... best nilz ps.. btw... are going to propose such a roundtable... how are we organizing it.. ?? -- Dr. Nils Zurawski Universität Hamburg Inst. für kriminologische Sozialforschung Allendeplatz 1 20146 Hamburg Germany tel. +49 (0) 40 42838 6185 fax. +49 (0) 40 42838 2328 Projekt zu Videoüberwachung: http://www.uni-muenster.de/PeaCon/zurawski/ueberwachung