Hi Sue, Many weeks ago, a parent wrote to me at WISE KIDS because the British Phonographic Industry have issued her with a fine, for her son's use of Limewire. She thought that Limewire was a legitimate service, as they had been paying 'subscription' charges. A good site with information on copyright and downloading music is http://www.pro-music.org, a resource site for news and information about legitimate music online. Another is http://www.musicunited.org/ Childnet and Pro-Music have also produced a leaflet on Young People, Music and the Internet. See http://www.childnet-int.org/music/ Best, Sangeet Dr Sangeet Bhullar Executive Director WISE KIDS Tel: 44 (0)1633-673339/ 44 (0)7900911940 email: sangeet@wisekids.org.uk skype id: sangeetbhullar http://www.wisekids.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Sue Cranmer Sent: 25 February 2006 15:29 To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Downloading music Thanks, also v useful. I could compile this stuff and send round in a week if other's would find it useful? Sue -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: 25 February 2006 15:07 To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Downloading music EFF has a good synopsis of copyright matters involving music downloading online at: http://www.eff.org/cafe/drmgame/copyright-faq.html It's based primarily, if not entirely, on U.S. copyright law, and is, as these things typically are, not a substitute for one's own decisionmaking, but more of a guide to understanding how to evaluate what is and what is not legal. Sj On Feb 25, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Sue Cranmer wrote:
Thanks for the info. This is useful. I will check out John Logie's paper too and retune my 'intuition'. BW
Sue
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hunsinger Sent: 25 February 2006 14:13 To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Downloading music
it depends on the individual track as to whether it is illegal or not. there is quite a bit of perfectly legal downloadable music on archive.org, http://www.archive.org/details/audio and record companies and artists do release individual tracks off albums for free
and some people, like Loca http://www.locarecords.com/ index2.html , release whole albums freely l, or under special license like creative commons, or open content. however, you have to be aware of whether those are licensed or just copyrighted and whether there are modifications to the terms, etc. etc.
however, i do find the intuition that 'if you didn't pay, it is illegal' to be very interesting, because that is the intuition that record companies try to promote in the u.s. John Logie gave an interesting paper about that in Chicago . On Feb 25, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Sue Cranmer wrote:
Hi
Can anyone clarify for me when it's legal/illegal to download music from the internet. I've just checked out sites like http://www.mp3musichq.com/me/index.asp?source=guks-03&kw=limewire which say that it's legal as long as you follow the copyright rules.
I have also read articles saying that some companies are releasing stuff by up and coming bands for promotional reasons, that is free to
download online. But, the stuff on sites like limewire is more far reaching than just new/promotional.
I had assumed that if you didn't pay for it it was illegal. But having interviewed many 14 year olds about it this week, this is clearly not their understanding.
Thanks for your help.
Sue
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