Hi Nancy and all, I don't know if anyone addressed your plea for help yet, but I'm just looking at the template linked from http://ir14.aoir.org/cfp/, and it appears it IS the template. All the sentences and paragraphs where the style guide mentions a style are actually styled in that style. Wow, sorry to be so clumsy in that last sentence, but y'all see my meaning I hope. I haven't done a deep dive yet, but so far all the styles I need are already embedded FWIW, annette On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Nancy Baym <baym@microsoft.com> wrote:
Regarding the formatting issue it would be extremely helpful and timesaving for all but one generous soul if one generous soul were to create a template with that style sheet that was available for download. I totally get the rationale but the thought of hundreds of people putting hours into formatting vs a few people putting hundreds of hours into formatting are both terrible compared to one person putting half an hour into formatting and the rest of us being grateful and treating that person to beverages aplenty in Denver.
I know it is counter to everything I ever did for this organization to suggest something and hope others will take care of it but hey, I'm resisting my former self. Or something.
Nancy ________________________________ From: Alexander Halavais Sent: 2/24/2013 10:27 PM To: David J. Phillips Cc: AoIR-L Subject: Re: [Air-L] AoIR 14 Announcement. Extended Deadline and More
I don't think our aim is to be a pain in the ass. At least not solely.
You're right: consistency in submission does not necessarily aid the review process. There are certainly difficulties in reviewing for an interdisciplinary conference, as each of our reviews over the years makes clear. But picking the same typeface won't help with that.
What it will help with is providing a consistent article style for SPIR. I think you will agree that a mishmash of styles makes reading such a collection difficult, and this is why collected volumes, journals, and proceedings try to provide some consistency among contributions. Given that the editorial committee for SPIR is entirely volunteer, we are asking for your help in this process.
The pain happens somewhere, and I guarantee that those brave souls who are taking the helm of SPIR for a second year will get more than their share. We recognize that asking contributors to conform to a consistent style adds work on your end, but it allows us to--for the first time in several years--provide the work of our membership in a way that the broader community can easily access. I think it's important that our work have a life beyond the conference, and I hope this will help provide it.
- Alex
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:53 PM, David J. Phillips <davidj.phillips@utoronto.ca> wrote:
I would like to strongly object to this:
3. In the interests of providing reviewers with consistency in submitted papers, all paper submissions must adhere to the SPIR template. That template is now linked on the CfP page of the AoIR 14 site. See it at http://ir14.aoir.org/cfp/
What is the point?
Does any reviewer really have a problem reading papers in formats other than this? Can they not compare the content of papers if those papers have different margins or font sizes or long quote conventions? Do our reviewers read only one journal? Are they desperately confused by varying citation styles? If any of these are the case, they are perhaps not qualified to review.
AoIR is interdisciplinary. Style templates are associated (for reasons I've never fully understood) with certain disciplines. Why are we forcing our authors into one particular disciplinary form?
And simply in terms of efficiency, it is a much bigger pain in the ass (for me anyway) to write in a different template than it is to read in a different template.
What am I missing here? What's the point?
djp
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