As I sift through the long tail of this AoIR thread of the last few days - I was literally in a cabin in the woods when the Musk deal went through, so just catching up on emails and kitchen sinks - I would have to second the Discord suggestion. I'm a relative newbie to that platform - using it for AI art, NFT and ML research - but have been impressed with the flexibility of the tools and how servers can be tailored to support particular needs of each community. I also like how I can be as actively present or distantly curious. Communication tools are solid with an emphasis on latency and stability. It was built by and for gamers <https://www.protocol.com/discord> but it's so much more than that dna might suggest. I know a few academics who use it to compliment their LMS sites, some notes on its pedagogical benefits here <https://www.profweb.ca/en/publications/digital-tools/discord-an-efficient-communication-tool-for-pedagogical-purposes>. Obviously it doesn't take much to improve on a Universtity LMS platform. *sigh* Nonetheless, I can imagine AoIR users really exploiting the possibilities there. It could be set up to complement the AoIR conference and build the community off the back of that. ///// But also happy to jump forth into whatever virtual plot folks migrate to. ///// Come say hello: Oldmateo#5185 Mitch On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 at 06:23, <air-l-request@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> To: aoir list <air-l@aoir.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:14:23 -0400 Subject: [Air-L] WEBCAST OCT 26 – Internet Society Online Safety SIG webinar – Online safety and law: what they don’t tell you (that really matter) -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Roo S <rs5086@nyu.edu> To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:23:21 -0400 Subject: [Air-L] AOIR Discord? Hello!
I'm wondering what AoIR members think of building a Discord? I realize that there are several platforms out there, and ironically we all are probably "too close" to some of the failings and/or opportunities of community, communication and digital space, but I would imagine that this group would probably hold a strong consensus that group email threads and listservs is an outdated way to share, organize, search for, and apply information.
I'd love to connect more deeply with anyone who's interested. Here's a brief/simple survey to help me follow up and/or learn from the group: https://forms.gle/zbxmg5433r7LctKf8
Last but not least, here's an interesting article about the applications of Discord for better digital community practice: https://www.newkinco.com/projects/anitya-metaverse-platform
Looking forward to connecting! Roo
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Roo S <rs5086@nyu.edu> To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:27:15 -0400 Subject: [Air-L] article about Discord My apologies... in the previous email I shared the incorrect link to the article about Discord communities. Here is the correct link:
https://www.anitya.space/blog-posts/the-doorway-to-discord-a-pathway-to-new-...
Again, ironically, this error would not have been made on a platform like Discord which provides a visually digestible preview of the links we share, and also allow us to edit messages seamlessly without piling on more words onto our collective Cognitive Load :)
preaching to the choir, i guess.... :)
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:23 AM Roo S <rs5086@nyu.edu> wrote:
Hello!
I'm wondering what AoIR members think of building a Discord? I realize that there are several platforms out there, and ironically we all are probably "too close" to some of the failings and/or opportunities of community, communication and digital space, but I would imagine that this group would probably hold a strong consensus that group email threads and listservs is an outdated way to share, organize, search for, and apply information.
I'd love to connect more deeply with anyone who's interested. Here's a brief/simple survey to help me follow up and/or learn from the group: https://forms.gle/zbxmg5433r7LctKf8
Last but not least, here's an interesting article about the applications of Discord for better digital community practice: https://www.newkinco.com/projects/anitya-metaverse-platform
Looking forward to connecting! Roo
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:08 AM Roo S via Air-L <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Hello!
I'm wondering what AoIR members think of building a Discord? I realize that there are several platforms out there, and ironically we all are probably "too close" to some of the failings and/or opportunities of community, communication and digital space, but I would imagine that this group would probably hold a strong consensus that group email threads and listservs is an outdated way to share, organize, search for, and apply information.
I'd love to connect more deeply with anyone who's interested. Here's a brief/simple survey to help me follow up and/or learn from the group: https://forms.gle/zbxmg5433r7LctKf8
Last but not least, here's an interesting article about the applications of Discord for better digital community practice: https://www.newkinco.com/projects/anitya-metaverse-platform
Looking forward to connecting! Roo
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Dr. Emma Briant" <teflpolsoc@gmail.com> To: Paul Levinson <levinson.paul@gmail.com> Cc: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org, Roo S <rs5086@nyu.edu> Bcc: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 12:18:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [Air-L] AOIR Discord? I’m inclined to agree with that. Different forums are great for different purposes. I’m actually a bit reluctant to have many more apps on my phone. If I do decide Twitter is no longer working for academia and there’s an exodus of academics then I may move but my experiences with forums for sharing set up elsewhere, such as slack have not been great. People use them for a bit then don’t bother to continue. Emma
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 12:13, Paul Levinson via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
For what it's worth, I don't think email and listservs are "an outdated way to share, organize, search for, and apply information. People have been saying that for twenty years. But, to the contrary, email and listservs are an easy and reliable way to share important information, and are usually preferable to the proliferation of sites for this or that kind of conversation.
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:08 AM Roo S via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Hello!
I'm wondering what AoIR members think of building a Discord? I realize that there are several platforms out there, and ironically we all are probably "too close" to some of the failings and/or opportunities of community, communication and digital space, but I would imagine that this group would probably hold a strong consensus that group email threads and listservs is an outdated way to share, organize, search for, and apply information.
I'd love to connect more deeply with anyone who's interested. Here's a brief/simple survey to help me follow up and/or learn from the group: https://forms.gle/zbxmg5433r7LctKf8
Last but not least, here's an interesting article about the applications of Discord for better digital community practice: https://www.newkinco.com/projects/anitya-metaverse-platform
Looking forward to connecting! Roo
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:48 AM Shulman, Stu via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
If the format is JSON it can be uploaded to a free DiscoverText Academic account.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:08 AM Steph Kent via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Thank you! One more question
Are there tricks to opening/accessing the archive once its downloaded?
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Several people have asked how to get a Twitter archive. It's super easy, here you go:
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Reminder to get a Twitter archive asap. can take a few days (it includes
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Hi
I'm on Mastadon already, but would prefer to be on an AOIR sponsored
server...
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
Hi all
I am very much interested in the Mastadon opportunity. Please count me in
too.
Be good,
Fenwick
On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 13:52, Robert W Gehl via Air-L <
air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Count me in on this, Aram. (no surprise there, I imagine!)
As far as I'm concerned, there is academic microblogging beyond the Musk
site -- it's on the fediverse. I'll be talking about it a bit in my
presentation at AOIR.
- Rob
On 10/24/22 13:21, Aram Sinnreich via Air-L wrote:
I’ve been thinking that AoIR should launch its own Mastodon instance,
open to all members. Something like aoir[dot]social.
Glad to discuss in Dublin.
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Hi Stu -
Like many, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst for
Twitter.
I find Twitter a fantastic tool for staying in-touch and updated on
colleagues' research/ideas/musings, sharing ideas of my own and
perhaps
soliciting feedback/contributions, following conference hashtags
(hello
#AOIR2022!), some current events and socialization...and the odd dog
or
nature photo I'd hate quit it, but I've not ruled it out ... but I
could live w/o Twitter, even after 13 years.
Without getting too deeply into politics here (which can be hard
given
the broader issues raised) -- as to your last paragraph Stu, I'm with
you. Since 2001 I've been increasingly concerned about the future of
America's lttle-d democracy, view 2016 as a populist
accident/experiment, saw 2020--1/6 as a test run. feel 2022 will be a
good indicator of where things are heading having learned from 2020,
and
firmly believe that 2024 likely will be *the* pivotal point for our
country one way or the other. (Though politically, I think this
political decline started in the mid-90s when one party decided to
treat
the other as the 'enemy' and embraced a scorched-earth brand of
politics
that considered compromise akin to treason, which got cranked to 11
thanks to silo'd cable news and SM platforms in ensuing years.) And
that's all I will prognosticate about here politically -- other than
to
conclude by saying I'm worried not just about now, but that we will
not
be able to fix things and get "back on track for the future" anytime
soon. :/.
I do admit that despite being an old-school geek/hacker, in recent
years
I've wrestled with the warm-and-fuzzy nostalgic notion from the '90s
that "information wants to be free". In some ways, it's been great
for
individuals and society -- in other ways, as Borat might say, "not so
much." Of course, that change in thinking also could be a function
of
midlife as well as current events. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But one of the world's dominant modern comms mediums transitioning
into
an unaccountable private entity run by a person .... however you view
Musk .... definitely is concerning on *many* levels.[1]. By
contrast, at
least FB is a regulated public company and has the appearance of some
'objective' review of controversial things via its Oversight Board.
As for aca-Twitter? As I said, I'm still in wait-and-see, but it
wouldn't surprise me to see many tweeps both from academia and
elsewhere
posting their final tweets either due to protest or for professional
reasons / protection by year-end or early next year, depending on
what
'innovations' are introduced to the platform post-acquisition.
Stay tuned, I guess...
-- rick
[1] WaPo reported Friday that DOD/DOJ 'might' be investigating the
Twitter deal and SpaceX-DOD contracts due to national security
concerns
with Musk's public views and his foreign investors. Could be
something
there, could be a flash of desperation to block the sale ... but
again,
the question of accountability comes up.
On 21 Oct 2022, at 7:43, Shulman, Stu via Air-L wrote:
Will academic Twitter exist under Elon Musk? Will there be more or
less
data? More or less urgent issues to study? Will the "Fail Whale"
show
up
again after 75% of the staff is gone? Who will do content
moderation?
Is
this a FastTrack to the next violent uprising in the US?
I am curious what people on this particular list think is about to
happen.
After 12 years featuring the formal study of Twitter data I am
completely
burned out. Not on the challenges, nor the art and science of the
tasks. I
still love talking to students and faculty who have chosen Twitter
as
the
object of their research. The data has never been more widely
available and
the positive uses of it can be inspiring.
It's the voluminous amounts of hate I see in my own research. Also
the
systemic weaponization of Twitter against democratic systems of
government
globally. As an original Board Member and the Treasurer of a 501
(c)(6)
called "The Big Boulder Initiative" I was working as a liaison to
academia
with a group of industry people on the "long term preservation of
the
social data industry." The industry survived, but the ideals aspired
to
have not. We offered this 2-minute Lawrence Lessig-inspired vision
of
the
challenges about 7 years ago:
"Why Texifter Joined the Big Boulder Initiative"
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://vimeo.com/129423037__;!!IaT_gp1N!0Ghlkf1...
Lessig was right. On the Internet, architecture is the most powerful
regulator. The architecture of Twitter, with corporate ads featured
on
insurrectionist and other problematic timelines, is now a persistent
threat
to democratic systems of government without a single day of Musk
governance. The insurrection January 6, 2021 was planned in the open
on
Twitter. There were advertisements from familiar brands in every
seditious
timeline. Evolving tactics using Twitter trains (tagging 30
like-minded
users), notification-rich replies, the ReTweet functionality,
gamification,
domestic and foreign meme warfare, the idolatry of influence via
misinformation, bots and trolls, as well as paid amplifiers of all
manner
and variety. The "digital soldiers" we found in the Canadian
election
of
2019 (fake Americans who hated Trudeau but liked RT, Russia Today
and
Southfront) were openly planning a QAnon-inspired "storm" which
ultimately
was the first coup attempt in two centuries of American democracy. I
briefed the US/UK Intelligence Community (staff from the Joint
Chiefs,
JSOC, etc.) February 12, 2020 via the Strategic Multilayer
Assessment
using
open source information from Twitter. Things have since gotten much
worse,
not better, since that briefing. These were the slides in early
February
2020:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tinyurl.com/huntingbotsandtrolls__;!!IaT...
Looking at the current threat-relevant data, I have a
sick-to-my-stomach
feeling about the next 60 days in U.S. history. We may be late to
notice
the end of small "d" democracy is imminent or inevitable because of
the
Internet effects we cannot fully see, capture, measure, or control.
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Editor Emeritus, *Journal of Information Technology & Politics*
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:23 PM Meryl Krieger via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
I'd like to be included here as well.
J. Meryl Krieger, Ph.D. *she/her/hers* Senior Learning Designer Arts & Sciences Online Learning, College of Liberal and Professional Studies, University of Pennsylvania Lecturer, College of Liberal and Professional Studies, University of Pennsylvania Consultant and Career Coach, Career Coaching for Creatives/ http://careercoachingforcreatives.com Adjunct Lecturer, Department of Sociology, Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:48 AM Shulman, Stu via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
If the format is JSON it can be uploaded to a free DiscoverText Academic account.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:08 AM Steph Kent via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Thank you! One more question
Are there tricks to opening/accessing the archive once its downloaded?
On Oct 25, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Derek Baird via Air-L < air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Several people have asked how to get a Twitter archive. It's super easy, here you go:
Twitter > Settings > Your account > Download an archive of your data *_________________* *Derek E. Baird, M.A.* he/him/his
On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:47 PM Derek Baird <debaird@gmail.com> wrote:
Reminder to get a Twitter archive asap. can take a few days (it includes
DMs.)
DB
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On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:40 PM sally--- via Air-L <
air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Hi
I'm on Mastadon already, but would prefer to be on an AOIR sponsored
server...
________________________________
From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Fenwick
Mckelvey via Air-L <air-l@listserv.aoir.org>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 1:45 PM
To: Robert W Gehl <lists@robertwgehl.org>
Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org <air-l@listserv.aoir.org>
Subject: Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
Hi all
I am very much interested in the Mastadon opportunity. Please count me in
too.
Be good,
Fenwick
On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 13:52, Robert W Gehl via Air-L <
air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Count me in on this, Aram. (no surprise there, I imagine!)
As far as I'm concerned, there is academic microblogging beyond the Musk
site -- it's on the fediverse. I'll be talking about it a bit in my
presentation at AOIR.
- Rob
On 10/24/22 13:21, Aram Sinnreich via Air-L wrote:
I’ve been thinking that AoIR should launch its own Mastodon instance,
open to all members. Something like aoir[dot]social.
Glad to discuss in Dublin.
On Oct 23, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Richard Forno via Air-L <
air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
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Hi Stu -
Like many, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst for
Twitter.
I find Twitter a fantastic tool for staying in-touch and updated on
colleagues' research/ideas/musings, sharing ideas of my own and
perhaps
soliciting feedback/contributions, following conference hashtags
(hello
#AOIR2022!), some current events and socialization...and the odd dog
or
nature photo I'd hate quit it, but I've not ruled it out ... but I
could live w/o Twitter, even after 13 years.
Without getting too deeply into politics here (which can be hard
given
the broader issues raised) -- as to your last paragraph Stu, I'm with
you. Since 2001 I've been increasingly concerned about the future of
America's lttle-d democracy, view 2016 as a populist
accident/experiment, saw 2020--1/6 as a test run. feel 2022 will be a
good indicator of where things are heading having learned from 2020,
and
firmly believe that 2024 likely will be *the* pivotal point for our
country one way or the other. (Though politically, I think this
political decline started in the mid-90s when one party decided to
treat
the other as the 'enemy' and embraced a scorched-earth brand of
politics
that considered compromise akin to treason, which got cranked to 11
thanks to silo'd cable news and SM platforms in ensuing years.) And
that's all I will prognosticate about here politically -- other than
to
conclude by saying I'm worried not just about now, but that we will
not
be able to fix things and get "back on track for the future" anytime
soon. :/.
I do admit that despite being an old-school geek/hacker, in recent
years
I've wrestled with the warm-and-fuzzy nostalgic notion from the '90s
that "information wants to be free". In some ways, it's been great
for
individuals and society -- in other ways, as Borat might say, "not so
much." Of course, that change in thinking also could be a function
of
midlife as well as current events. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But one of the world's dominant modern comms mediums transitioning
into
an unaccountable private entity run by a person .... however you view
Musk .... definitely is concerning on *many* levels.[1]. By
contrast, at
least FB is a regulated public company and has the appearance of some
'objective' review of controversial things via its Oversight Board.
As for aca-Twitter? As I said, I'm still in wait-and-see, but it
wouldn't surprise me to see many tweeps both from academia and
elsewhere
posting their final tweets either due to protest or for professional
reasons / protection by year-end or early next year, depending on
what
'innovations' are introduced to the platform post-acquisition.
Stay tuned, I guess...
-- rick
[1] WaPo reported Friday that DOD/DOJ 'might' be investigating the
Twitter deal and SpaceX-DOD contracts due to national security
concerns
with Musk's public views and his foreign investors. Could be
something
there, could be a flash of desperation to block the sale ... but
again,
the question of accountability comes up.
On 21 Oct 2022, at 7:43, Shulman, Stu via Air-L wrote:
Will academic Twitter exist under Elon Musk? Will there be more or
less
data? More or less urgent issues to study? Will the "Fail Whale"
show
up
again after 75% of the staff is gone? Who will do content
moderation?
Is
this a FastTrack to the next violent uprising in the US?
I am curious what people on this particular list think is about to
happen.
After 12 years featuring the formal study of Twitter data I am
completely
burned out. Not on the challenges, nor the art and science of the
tasks. I
still love talking to students and faculty who have chosen Twitter
as
the
object of their research. The data has never been more widely
available and
the positive uses of it can be inspiring.
It's the voluminous amounts of hate I see in my own research. Also
the
systemic weaponization of Twitter against democratic systems of
government
globally. As an original Board Member and the Treasurer of a 501
(c)(6)
called "The Big Boulder Initiative" I was working as a liaison to
academia
with a group of industry people on the "long term preservation of
the
social data industry." The industry survived, but the ideals aspired
to
have not. We offered this 2-minute Lawrence Lessig-inspired vision
of
the
challenges about 7 years ago:
"Why Texifter Joined the Big Boulder Initiative"
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://vimeo.com/129423037__;!!IaT_gp1N!0Ghlkf1...
Lessig was right. On the Internet, architecture is the most powerful
regulator. The architecture of Twitter, with corporate ads featured
on
insurrectionist and other problematic timelines, is now a persistent
threat
to democratic systems of government without a single day of Musk
governance. The insurrection January 6, 2021 was planned in the open
on
Twitter. There were advertisements from familiar brands in every
seditious
timeline. Evolving tactics using Twitter trains (tagging 30
like-minded
users), notification-rich replies, the ReTweet functionality,
gamification,
domestic and foreign meme warfare, the idolatry of influence via
misinformation, bots and trolls, as well as paid amplifiers of all
manner
and variety. The "digital soldiers" we found in the Canadian
election
of
2019 (fake Americans who hated Trudeau but liked RT, Russia Today
and
Southfront) were openly planning a QAnon-inspired "storm" which
ultimately
was the first coup attempt in two centuries of American democracy. I
briefed the US/UK Intelligence Community (staff from the Joint
Chiefs,
JSOC, etc.) February 12, 2020 via the Strategic Multilayer
Assessment
using
open source information from Twitter. Things have since gotten much
worse,
not better, since that briefing. These were the slides in early
February
2020:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tinyurl.com/huntingbotsandtrolls__;!!IaT...
Looking at the current threat-relevant data, I have a
sick-to-my-stomach
feeling about the next 60 days in U.S. history. We may be late to
notice
the end of small "d" democracy is imminent or inevitable because of
the
Internet effects we cannot fully see, capture, measure, or control.
--
Dr. Stuart W. Shulman
Founder and CEO, Texifter
Editor Emeritus, *Journal of Information Technology & Politics*
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