so valuable... THERE ARE NO STUDIES WHICH DEMO THAT GAME ADDICTS USER'S BRAINS ARE NOT BEING MODIFIED BY THEIR ADDICTION THERE ARE NO STUDIES WHICH DEMO THAT GAME ADDICTS USER'S BRAINS ARE BEING MODIFIED BY THEIR ADDICTION. that being said.... what was the point to the original post about how game user's addictions couldn't be real addictions as real addictions are only physiological??? stay on the list -- bad Elijah! ----- Original Message ----- From: "elijah wright" <elw@stderr.org> To: "muraco" <one@muraco.org> Cc: <air-l@aoir.org> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Air-l] Video Game Addiction
dear muraco,
1) thanks so much for forwarding an off-list personal email to the list. :( bad muraco!
2) i'm afraid you still don't understand my last mail to the list.
3) no one but you seems to be making informational claims, and i see no evidence of hostility.
4) a quick google search with the terms " +"video game addiction" physiological change" returns multiple hits, with multiple perspectives.
5) textbook trolling - nicely done.
~elijah
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, muraco wrote:
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:15:58 -0700 From: muraco <one@muraco.org> To: air-l@aoir.org, elijah wright <elw@stderr.org> Subject: Re: [Air-l] Video Game Addiction
interesting that asking for verification of "no shred of evidence exists for the brains being altered in game users" gets so much hostilty... I guess you have no study to cite, and that being said then I guess THERE IS NO SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT GAME USERS BRAINS ARE NOT BEING
MODIFIED BY THEIR GAME ADDICTION.
and so I guess your original statement isn't so useful...
I continue with the noting that your defintion of addiction is most
flawed....
that addiction can include only psychological dimensions, and therefore it would seem appropriate to note "the addiction of game users..."
which is I believe where we started...
sadly I was hoping for something a bit more concrete to debate about.... otherwise why the post? Muraco
----- Original Message ----- From: "elijah wright" <elw@stderr.org> To: "muraco" <one@muraco.org> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Air-l] Video Game Addiction
thus far, no one but you has indicated that there needs to be a cited study in order to establish that "no shred of evidence exists".
you *could* go fire up google, instead of trolling the AIR list....
elijah
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, muraco wrote:
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 16:53:32 -0700 From: muraco <one@muraco.org> Reply-To: air-l@aoir.org To: air-l@aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Video Game Addiction
coool then someone is going to cite the source??? this study that looked at users brains???
I am not hostile but I do think I want things cited, and not spouted
off
without much thinking...
so this study???
----- Original Message ----- From: "elijah wright" <elw@stderr.org> To: <air-l@aoir.org> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [Air-l] Video Game Addiction
Hmm, and I am also unaware of any study that actually looked for
altered
brains in video-game addicts, so you must know of such a study as you are claiming "no shred of evidence" was found. I should like to know about the study that actually looked at these game users brains. Please
tsk, tsk. hostile?
"no shred of evidence" can be interpreted to mean "no evidence has been presented" as easily as "there is evidence to the contrary"... two rather different options.
which was actually meant is debatable, no? semantics :)
elijah
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