I began to wonder why more social science and humanities people aren't participating in internet governance and internet engineering task forces, such as ISOC and IETF and then it really struck me. Though there are some there, the real question is why these open groups don't have more international participants in their highest governance. has anyone done demographic work on these organizations other than themselves, and has anyone done significant work on these institutions other than themselves? should we? given that they, like aoir, are primarily internet based, the area seems ripe for significant work, and given most of the data is available, perhaps it is time we start looking more closely at them as an area of study. http://www.isoc.org htt://www.ietf.org Jeremy Hunsinger Center for Digital Discourse and Culture