hi gang, correct me if I am wrong but didnt Gibson, when he created the word "cyberspace", define it as "a consensual hallucination experienced daily by legitimate operators". So when I refer to anybody "hallucinating" about cyberspace I am indeed being correct as per the true meaning of the word. Cyberspace is, according to the author of the word, an hallucination. To create cyberspace, one hallucinates. Nobody was being insulted, nobody was being ridiculed when I suggested some hallucinate about cyberspace, I was merely describing cyberspace as the author intended. I trust the confusion has now ended. Of course, if some people want to take the word cyberspace and then re-invent its meaning.... well, thats another issue :-) note to Jonathan - I did put forward a project in the online discussion group in one of my internet studies units but it was suggested to me that I might like to keep it under my belt for a post graduate effort. to conclude... I'm sure the famous modern philosopher, Bart Simpson, if asked his opinion on this matter would remark... " hundreds of billions of web pages to study and you want to talk about cyberspace????" see ya Eero Tarik