Not quite sure how I came to be the champion of the face to face classroom - my argument is simply that all teaching/learning methods will have advantages and disadvantages for some. EE-Learning is probable closest to my current teaching method - web facilitated Problem Based Learning. I used to get virtual guest lecturers to participate in online discussions, which the students enjoyed - though some argued that I simply played the roles of the various authors of their set readings. Marj Dr Marjorie Kibby, Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and Arts The University of Newcastle, Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia Marj.Kibby@newcastle.edu.au +61 2 49216604
"Dr. Steve Eskow" <drseskow@cox.net> 23/05/2007 2:09 pm >>> Are you open to discussing and negotiating trade-offs, Marj?
I'd ike to study with you. Coming to Australia at this time in my life is, however, quite out of the question. I have an infant son I must care for, and a job that I need to keep for a number of reasons, some obvious. And: if I can study with you and remain in California there may be some advantages for you and for your college and for your students in Australia. For one, I can act as a placement officer for Australian students who might want to come to the States for a period of study. In any event, what I'm wondering is whether you're open to trading off the advantage that you see in the face-to-face setting to allow all of us who can't get to Australia to learn--or if your unalterable commitment, the beginning and end of the innovation, is the face-to-face classroom. In Australia. Cheers, Marj. Steve Eskow (I don't really have an infant son. I do have an infant grandson.) -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Marj Kibby Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:51 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Technology Transforming Education--EE-Learning Online learning does have the power to dissolve barriers of time and place - but it is not without it's limitations ... some of which have been mentioned in previous posts on this subject. If you were to come to Australia, I believe there are skills that I could teach you more effectively in a f2f situation. Koala arm-wrestling for example - where not all students will have access to their own Koala, some may have insufficient motivation to expend the time and effort without direct supervision, some will lack confidence in undertaking the task without personal guidance, some will not have the technical skill/ necessary equipment to abstract the required information from video, audio etc, and some of the finer points of Koala arm-wrestling may be better demonstrated/practiced/refined in a hands-on situation. Cheers, Marj Dr Marjorie Kibby, Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and Arts The University of Newcastle, Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia Marj.Kibby@newcastle.edu.au +61 2 49216604
"Dr. Steve Eskow" <drseskow@cox.net> 23/05/2007 12:12 pm >>> I'm asking that you consider that the "hybrid" of classroom and online negates the power of the Internet and the Web to do away with the spatial and temporal limitations of traditional learning.
If I were the student the standard version of "hybrid" requires that I be able to relocate to wherever your college is located in order to have you be my teacher. The "hybrid" of ee-learning allows me or any student to work or serve anywhere in the world and use the Internet and the World Wide Web to create a learning community and to engae with other students and with you and other faculty who never need to come together physically. I am not physically co-located with Marj Kibby, but this medium allows me to learn from her without relocating. I am arguing that the extra measure of learning I would get from her if I were face-to-face with her in a classroom is doubtful, and perhaps not worth what I would have to give up in order to get to wherever she is. Steve Eskow -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Marj Kibby Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:03 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Technology Transforming Education--EE-Learning This is not what I think 'hybrid' learning is. I'd describe this as 'web-supported learning'. In hybrid learning the online and f2f components are equal in value, both are essential components of the learning experience. An example would be where students have f2f instruction for two weeks, then undertake group projects or problem solving, using online communication, reference sharing, file sharing ... Engaging in learning experiences that are difficult or inconvenient in the classroom, or more effective online. Marj Dr Marjorie Kibby, Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and Arts The University of Newcastle, Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia Marj.Kibby@newcastle.edu.au +61 2 49216604
"Dr. Steve Eskow" <drseskow@cox.net> 05/23/07 10:30 AM >>>
"Blended" or "hybrid" learning continues to be shaped by the classroom, and uses ICT to enrich classroom-dominated ways of learning. _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/