I agree, we need to focus on why 'cheating' is occurring. In the UK at least, with high fees, chronic instability in the grad job market, the chasing of high grades affects many students. There's an explicit encouragement of students to become 'entrepreneurial' and maximize their opportunities, whilst accumulating huge debts to pay (over the odds) for degrees that are socio-economically worth less and less. Aren't they following a neo-liberal logic of 'out-sourcing' their work? Sure, we can get stuck into the morality of cheating, but that obscures what's at stake in our current - broken - education system. regards Sanjay ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 18:48:28 +0000 From: Jacob Johanssen <johanssenjacob@gmail.com> To: Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org> Cc: Patricia Aufderheide <paufder@american.edu>, air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] cheating students? Message-ID: <CAK7T761q-6RFqROUcNWQpq43Bh98k+=UmXp0C9ZOpTDWY+bTaA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" We should be focussing on the reasons behind / causes of such developments rather than only the developments themselves, or on just blaming the students, in my view. On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 17:19 Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org> wrote:
Sadly, yes.
We've had cases where CS students 'outsourced' their coding assignments to code farms in Siberia or Eastern Europe. One time the assignment deliverable a CS student got from such a service was based on sample material from their professor's own website -- it even had her (oddly non-attributed) comments still showing up in the code, which was a dead giveaway! We all had a good/sad chuckle at that level of fail. But thankfully there are decent commercial and free tools to detect or make it harder to use stolen/shared/plagarised code, and depending on the class there's ways to minimize the potential -- such as mandating version controls during the semester.
On written assignments, I'm certain I've been the attempted mark in such things now and then, but I'm also pretty good at discovering it. To wit: years ago, one of my American grad students submitted a capstone paper that not only used UK English, but was written a bit .... oddly in places. (Not uncommon, but I noticed it, which isn't a good sign). I recall one sentence read something like "the US natural gas pipeline scheme...." ("scheme"?) and I was thinking, that's odd. The next page I saw reference to "personal computing schemes...." and my radar went off and I went explorin'. Sure enough, the entire paper was ganked from 5 sources (with fabricated citations no less) and apparently run thru a regionally-incorrect spellchecker/thesarus before submission. The more amusing part? 3 of the sources I'd used years ago in my own PhD work, and I professionally *knew* the authors in question. Suffice it to say the plagarism meeting I had with the student was more than a slam-dun k. And using UK English? Given that my PhD is from Australia, *I*'m the only one in the class who has any excuse to occasionally 'misspell' words that way -- admittedly, ten years on, I still experience bouts of that collateral damage. :)
Bottom line, we'll see more of this over time, I'm sure. There's even talk of AI/ML systems 'writing' news articles, so how long before that also becomes part of the things we have to look out for when grading papers in the classroom?
-- rick
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------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 16:44:41 -0300 From: Cristian Berrio Zapata <cristian.berrio@gmail.com> To: Patricia Aufderheide <paufder@american.edu> Cc: "air-l@listserv.aoir.org" <air-l@listserv.aoir.org>, "UFVALIST-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU" <UFVALIST-L@listserv.american.edu> Subject: Re: [Air-L] cheating students? Message-ID: <CA+=zPaxC_6iLbs6AtbR5Z6P+QOKmdkEqUJnS7e=H42OAQc3YVQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" This is a complex problem driven by the need of good students, and the lack of morality of bad students. Mainly in systems were is not talent but money that gets you into university, this is extensive. In Colombia, sites like "Rincon del Vago" https://www.rincondelvago.com/ have made an industry of cheating. Many teachers when they were studying, due to need of money, did this to pay tuition fees. Students at schools do it to earn some money. It is a giant black market in Latin America! El dom., 2 de feb. de 2020 a la(s) 11:22, Patricia Aufderheide ( paufder@american.edu) escribi?:
does anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that this has happened to you?
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It was 5 p.m. on a Thursday in Nairobi, Kenya, and the streets were crowded with people rushing to get home for dinner. But Philemon, a 25-year-old science researcher, was just getting ready for ... www.pri.org<http://www.pri.org>
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Reclaiming Fair Use--t< https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/022637419X?pf_rd_p=d1f45e03-8b73-4c9a-9beb-4819111bef9a&pf_rd_r=9A4S3CXHCD8R7GBY3C8P>he second edition is out, with new stories, quizzes and entirely new chapters on the surprising success of fair use in enabling creativity!
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-- *Cristian Berr?o Zapata* ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 20:19:35 +0000 (UTC) From: kalule peter peter <peterokalule@yahoo.com> To: Patricia Aufderheide <paufder@american.edu>, Cristian Berrio Zapata <cristian.berrio@gmail.com> Cc: "air-l@listserv.aoir.org" <air-l@listserv.aoir.org>, "UFVALIST-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU" <ufvalist-l@listserv.american.edu> Subject: Re: [Air-L] cheating students? Message-ID: <1231591333.469276.1580674775662@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 abolish value, abolish grades and leave students alone? On Sunday, 2 February 2020, 22:45:32 GMT+3, Cristian Berrio Zapata <cristian.berrio@gmail.com> wrote: This is a complex problem driven by the need of good students, and the lack of morality of bad students. Mainly in systems were is not talent but money that gets you into university, this is extensive. In Colombia, sites like "Rincon del Vago" https://www.rincondelvago.com/ have made an industry of cheating. Many teachers when they were studying, due to need of money, did this to pay tuition fees. Students at schools do it to earn some money. It is a giant black market in Latin America! El dom., 2 de feb. de 2020 a la(s) 11:22, Patricia Aufderheide ( paufder@american.edu) escribi?:
does anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that this has happened to you?
https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-01-24/doing-western-students-homework-big-b... [ https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/open_graph/public/images/2020/01/20... ]< https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-01-24/doing-western-students-homework-big-b...
Kenya is a hotbed in the $1 billion global contract cheating industry - pri.org< https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-01-24/doing-western-students-homework-big-b...
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Reclaiming Fair Use--t< https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/022637419X?pf_rd_p=d1f45e03-8b73-4c9a-9beb-4819111bef9a&pf_rd_r=9A4S3CXHCD8R7GBY3C8P>he second edition is out, with new stories, quizzes and entirely new chapters on the surprising success of fair use in enabling creativity!
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abolish value, abolish grades and leave students alone On Sunday, 2 February 2020, 22:45:32 GMT+3, Cristian Berrio Zapata < cristian.berrio@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a complex problem driven by the need of good students, and the lack of morality of bad students. Mainly in systems were is not talent but money that gets you into university, this is extensive. In Colombia, sites like "Rincon del Vago" https://www.rincondelvago.com/ have made an industry of cheating. Many teachers when they were studying, due to need of money, did this to pay tuition fees. Students at schools do it to earn some money. It is a giant black market in Latin America!
El dom., 2 de feb. de 2020 a la(s) 11:22, Patricia Aufderheide ( paufder@american.edu) escribi?:
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