It is my understanding that post-tenure publication is a very steep slope to the negative. This alone could potentially falsify the fact/claim that jobs, tenure, etc are seconday to the desire to speak. Also if this desire is the primary motive then IMHO it would make no difference where it is published or what stature that publication may have. George Ritzer in "The McDonalization of Society" pp 70-74 presents some compelling arguments against Dr. Wellman's assertions. In it he qutoes Donald Kennedy, the former president of Stanford University, who also speakes to this link between publications and career. Absent more compelling (less anecdotal) information I cannot get past these fact/claims. On another note, I have found no Journal that was born full grown. At some point all of them have struggled for acceptance against the cultural forces that are implicit in this thread. It is true of any new scholarly endeavor. Is there room for another experiment? James Barry Wellman <wellman@chass.utoronto.ca> wrote: I am disappointed by much of what I have recently read about journal writing. I want to provide different ideas. 1. The people I hang out with, small and large, write for journals because they have something to say. Sure, they'd like jobs, tenure, etc, but that is a secondary consideration. And the raises post-tenure are small enough that major publication is a bummer on a cost-benefit basis. We write because we want to. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.