As always, well said Rhiannon...it does get so old the idea that all of this is new. The only thing that's new here is the reach of the communication...in that "rifling" can now be done privately and more thoroughly than just going through a desk. Lois ____________________ Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com CV: http://www.loisscheidt.com/cv.html Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Rhiannon Bury Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:42 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook posts used to fire people in Australia The public/private bites back, for sure, but this is not new to facebook. Years ago, I made a mildly negative comment about a former department in an email to a new colleague. She promptly forwarded it to the Chair because, unbeknownst to me, she had an agenda and wanted a program I ran closed down. It didn't work but the Chair called me in and I had some explaining to do. Very embarrassing to say the least. A situation like this can happen with any form of written communication. A friend of mine was fired on the spot when her new boss her rifled through her desk and found a photocopy she had taken on the office machine for her own business. The lesson for facebook is the same for any other "traceable" communication--think before you post and in the words of Deep Throat from The X-Files, "trust noone." :) Rhiannon _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/

Joan, My response is US-centric, but yes, with current copyright laws as they are anyone with intellectual property (self-produced multimedia archives of most any sort) should be bequeathing that archive to someone else's control after they are gone. I have mine setup to include all published and unpublished work (including online work such as blogs) I should note there that I set up a "literary trust" which is the actual holder of the artifacts...and then has a trustee who manages them...and a stated process for assigning new trustees as time goes on. As a side note, funding has been arranged so that websites, etc can remain active into perpetuity...after reading this story I should have included the recommendation to convert media too modern forms periodically. The library world has been discussing this for some time, particularly in relationship to orphan works. Orphan works are works covered by current copyright laws but for whom no copyright holder can be identified. There are also stories of families who theoretically hold their departed members copyright but who refuse to allow the work to be used...something that could easily happen unless the original copyright holder has taken moves to pass on their advise for future use. In my case the trust documents say I want the work used appropriately and widely...which gives the trustee license to make decisions on appropriateness with the guidance that I don't want work to die in a vault somewhere. I'm not an attorney, so my endorsement is fairly shallow...but it looks like Wikipedia has a pretty good entry on this issues. For Copyright see http://tinyurl.com/8fsld for Orphan works see http://tinyurl.com/6zfuof "The length of the term [of copyright] can depend on several factors, including the type of work (e.g. musical composition, novel), whether the work has been published or not, and whether the work was created by an individual or a corporation. In most of the world, the default length of copyright is the life of the author plus either 50 or 70 years." After doing his research, my attorney was amazed at how little is actually being said about copyright and academics or any other content producers. He is planning at putting together some training for our local colleges, where he is on faculty. It may seem strange that a student has gone ahead and done this...mostly it was just being thorough when I set up my estate. I have some publications now--both academic and non-academic--and I plan to have many more in the future. So it seemed prudent to address everything at once when I had my estate reviewed during my divorce. I should also note that your post was very timely as I was reviewing this issue last week...it's part of my annual birthday review, so now I have some additions to make to bring the trust up to speed. Thanks Lois ____________________ Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com CV: http://www.loisscheidt.com/cv.html Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of jcu Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:07 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] archiving writers' e-work (fwd) Hello, Please forgive my rather large post to this list. But I wish to share an article in full (see below) for the sake of placing a question in context. I hope this is alright to do ... Has anyone heard of someone bequeathing their 'cloud' of personal info to a loved one/ family member? In the world of computer forensics, can a family member legally gain access to/take ownership of a deceased family members' mobile me accounts (the contents of it), for example? Is anyone researching this aspect of e-writing? thank you for your time, joan (canada) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:58:07 EDT Subject: [vel] archiving writers' e-work http://chronicle.com/weekly/v55/i31/31a00102.htm From the issue dated April 10, 2009 <Archiving Writers' Work in the Age of E-Mail Digital preservation lets scholars learn more than ever about authors By STEVE KOLOWICH Leslie Morris is used to handling John Updike's personal effects. For decades, Mr. Updike had been sending a steady stream of manuscripts and papers to Harvard University's Houghton Library, where Ms. Morris serves as a curator. But in late February, several weeks after the iconic writer died, some boxes arrived with unexpected contents: approximately 50 three-and-a-halfand five-and-a-quarter-inch floppy disks â?" artifacts from late in the author's career when he, like many of his peers, began using a word processor. The floppies have presented a bit of a problem. While relatively modern to Mr. Updike â?" who rose to prominence back when publishers were still using Linotype machines â?" the disks are outmoded and damage-prone by today's standards. Ms. Morris, who curates modern books and manuscripts, has carefully stored them alongside his papers in a temperature-controlled room in the library "until we have a procedure here at Harvard on how to handle these materials." Harvard isn't the only university puzzling over new media from old â?" and not-so-old â?" masters. Emory University recently received four laptops, an external hard drive, and a Palm Treo personal digital assistant from Salman Rushdie. The University of Texas at Austin recently acquired a series of Zip disks and a laptop containing Norman Mailer's files. "Once we learned how to preserve paper, we were good," says Naomi L. Nelson, interim director of the manuscript, archives, and rare-book library at Emory University's Robert W. Woodruff Library. "That really hasn't changed a lot. With computers it's a whole different ballgame." Still, three things are becoming clear. First, these trappings of the digital age will transform the way libraries preserve and exhibit literary collections. Second, universities are going to have to spend money on new equipment and training for their archivists. And finally, scholars will be able to learn more about writers than they ever have before. In With the Old Personal computers and external storage devices have been around for more than a quarter-century, but only now, as the famous literary figures of the 20th century begin to pass away, are these technologies showing up on archivists' doorsteps. According to Ms. Morris, the Updike papers will be the first in the Houghton catalog to have a "significant magnetic-media component," and she realizes that old floppy disks are just the tip of the iceberg. The great American novelists of the digital era â?" the ones who own BlackBerrys, use Gmail, Facebook, and Twitter, and compose only on computer screens â?" will soon begin shipping their hard drives off to university libraries. What happens then is something much on the minds of Matthew G. Kirschenbaum (The Chronicle, August 17, 2007) and Douglas L. Reside. Both Mr. Kirschenbaum, associate director of the Maryland Institute for Technology in the Humanities at the University of Maryland, and Mr. Reside, an assistant director at the institute, possess the collection of skills that may eventually be required of all 21st-century curators. In addition to holding doctorates in English, they are computer experts. The institute, located in an austere warren of offices in the basement of the university's McKeldin Library, houses a mix of sleek new machines and clunky old ones. An easy office-chair roll away from his newest computer sits Mr. Kirschenbaum's oldest one: a small, gray box known as the Apple II. Mr. Reside's office contains similar artifacts, including a Commodore 64 gaming console. Amid the institute's state-of-the-art machines, these ridiculous-looking antiques are stark reminders of how rapidly computer technology has evolved, producing one of the major challenges of preservation in the digital age: compatibility. The problem with the dizzying pace of computer evolution is that new machines are often incapable of learning old tricks â?" even if the tricks are not really that old. For instance, most new computers don't come with floppy-disk drives. And while Harvard will surely procure machines that can safely read Mr. Updike's disk-based papers, what if those papers were trapped inside an even older storage device â?" say, something resembling a Commodore 64 game cartridge? Future archivists must have the skills to retrieve them. Brave New World Archivists must also know how to transfer their data to new machines, since old machines can survive for only so long before their circuits give out. That, Ms. Nelson says, calls for people with intimate knowledge of how the new stuff works, plus the resourcefulness to retrofit modernity's round holes to accommodate antiquity's square pegs. "We're still going to need people who are experts in the history of the book, people who study handwriting, organize paper collections, handle obsolete video formats, traditional photography. ... We're going to do everything we've been doing, and then we're going to be doing this." Ms. Nelson understands this better than most: While Mr. Updike's floppy disks at Harvard probably contain simple text documents, the digital devices Mr. Rushdie donated to Emory contain entire ecosystems of data. Writers today do a lot more on computers than they used to, and modern devices hold a lot more information about their users than old ones did. The laptop (and now the mobile device) has become the locus of social life as correspondence has migrated from letters and phone calls to e-mail and text chatting. Recreational reading and research have also increasingly moved to the Web. Since a laptop logs basically everything its user does, preserving these data environments will allow the scholars of the future unprecedented insight into the minds of literary geniuses. "It's basically like giving someone the keys to your house," says Mr. Kirschenbaum. The influence of authors' environments on their writing has always interested scholars. Marcel Proust, for example, is known to have been heavily influenced by the paintings he surrounded himself with when he penned the novel Remembrance of Things Past, between 1909 and 1922. Imagine if Proust had been writing 100 years later, on a laptop: What else we might be able to learn about his creative process. The implications for scholarship are tremendous, Mr. Kirschenbaum says. Take a great digital-era author: "You could potentially look at a browser history, see that he visited a particular Web site on a particular day and time," he says. "And then if you were to go into the draft of one of his manuscripts, you could see that draft was edited at a particular day and hour, and you could establish a connection between something he was looking at on the Web with something that he then wrote." In some cases, computer forensics can even hint at an author's influences beyond the screen. Mr. Reside recently mined data from old equipment belonging to Jonathan Larson, the late composer and playwright who earned a Pulitzer Prize posthumously for the musical Rent. In an early draft, Larson had a character suggest that the moonlight coming through the window is really "fluorescent light from the Gap." In the final draft, the lyric was "Spike Lee shooting down the street." "From the time stamp on the digital files," Mr. Reside says, "I learned that the lyric was changed in the spring of 1992 ... when, I believe, Spike Lee was shooting Malcolm X in New York City." A Deluge of Data That is really just scratching the surface. Imagine how mapping the content of an author's Facebook profile, MySpace page, Flickr account, or Twitter feed might help scholars dissect that author's life and letters. The social-media generation has developed a habit of casually volunteering biographical information. When the great authors of that generation emerge, scholars may be pleased to find plenty of fodder for study already on the public record. But that is where things get tricky. Information that lives inside a writer's personal hardware â?" like the data on Mr. Updike's floppy disks or Mr. Rush die's hard drives â?" may not have physical dimensions, but it is at least attached to a single device that is owned by somebody. "It's physically here," says Mr. Kirschenbaum, gesturing toward a shelf of Apple Classic computers, donated to the Maryland institute by the poet Deena Larsen. "I can wrap my arms around it." Not so with e-mail and social-media content. These are not programs run on individual computers; they are Web-based services, hosted remotely by companies like Facebook and Google. The content exists in an ethereal mass of data known in information-technology circles as "the cloud." There, Mr. Kirschenbaum says, "you get into this wilderness of competing terms of service." With more and more information being stored on the Web, it is no longer clear who owns what. For example, in February, Facebook rewrote its terms of service to stake a claim on all content that users put on their profiles. After a backlash, the company hastily backed off and reiterated that users own their own profile content. But the case is a reminder of the fluidity and ambiguity of ownership laws in the dawning era of shared media. "Consumers don't really know their rights here, and many are so wowed with the convenience that they aren't asking themselves the tough questions yet," says Susan E. Thomas, digital archivist at the University of Oxford's Bodleian Library. "Right now we can collect boxes from the attic, but if the family request a cloud service to transfer the archive of their loved one to the Bodleian Library, will that happen? We haven't tried it yet, so I can't tell you." "That's sort of the brick wall that every archivist knows they're hurtling toward at 100 miles per hour," says Mr. Kirschenbaum. No Manual Many other questions also remain unanswered. For example, how much information is too much? A 20th-century author's personal papers might be of manageable quantity â?" say, what she was able to store in her attic. Digital storage, on the other hand, is cheap, easy, and virtually unlimited. Mining, sorting, and archiving every bit of data stored an author's computers could become a chore of paralyzing tedium and diminishing value. At present, researchers are wary of discarding anything. "The work of an author over their entire lifetime is such a fraction of the space you have on a server hard disk, so there's no reason to throw any of that away," says Mr. Kirschenbaum. However, he added, unless scholars are able to find what they want in that sea of data, it is not worth archiving in the first place. The good news is that as computers are logging more data, reference technology is growing more sophisticated. And Ms. Nelson suggests that the new tools for interacting with born-digital artifacts â?" including a wiki functionality that could allow researchers to annotate materials and share their insights with others â?" may not be too far away. New tools and new training, however, mean new money. Richard Ovenden, associate director of Oxford's Bodleian Library, says the speed at which universities adopt digital curation may depend on their willingness to divert funds from more traditional areas. And that could be at a slower pace than the speed of technological invention itself. http://chronicle.com Section: The Faculty Volume 55, Issue 31, Page A1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/

apologies if this has already been mentioned but the project team at the Digital Lives project at the British Library has been dealing with these issues for some time - and some simulator software development for dealing with hardware and software - i.e. dead digital formats - is in part driven by this kind of archive. http://www.bl.uk/digital-lives/ k Quoting Peter Timusk <ptimusk@sympatico.ca>:

On 8-Apr-09, at 1:07 PM, jcu wrote:

...

Has anyone heard of someone bequeathing their 'cloud' of personal info to a loved one/ family member? In the world of computer forensics, can a family member legally gain access to/take ownership of a deceased family members' mobile me accounts (the contents of it), for example?

Is anyone researching this aspect of e-writing

The question concerns me based on a news item some years back on archiving famous person's emails at some famous library in Britain and the incompatibility of older email software.

I also thought of this as a possible new business going into a dead

person's computer and presenting their family with a package of stuff's like their writings. _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org

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Thanks for the link Monica and the discussion. I've just finished a session with a PhD student I am working with who's just about to jump into the field and follow the development and implementation of social media at a network solutions company - her focus is on the possible implications for 'home' and 'work' life. Of course we found ourselves talking about the telework research of the 80s, but also the pre-industrial revolution cottage industries of the UK! I'm sure we could go back further :O) Ben. Ben Light Professor of Digital Media Director IS, Organisations and Society Research Centre Acting Associate Head of School - Research School of Media, Music and Performance The University of Salford Adelphi House Salford M3 6EN www.smmp.salford.ac.uk www.benlight.org www.isos.salford.ac.uk On 8/4/09 17:20, "Lois Ann Scheidt" <lscheidt@umail.iu.edu> wrote:

As always, well said Rhiannon...it does get so old the idea that all of this is new. The only thing that's new here is the reach of the communication...in that "rifling" can now be done privately and more thoroughly than just going through a desk.

Lois ____________________ Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com CV: http://www.loisscheidt.com/cv.html Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com

-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Rhiannon Bury Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:42 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook posts used to fire people in Australia

The public/private bites back, for sure, but this is not new to facebook. Years ago, I made a mildly negative comment about a former department in an email to a new colleague. She promptly forwarded it to the Chair because, unbeknownst to me, she had an agenda and wanted a program I ran closed down. It didn't work but the Chair called me in and I had some explaining to do. Very embarrassing to say the least. A situation like this can happen with any form of written communication. A friend of mine was fired on the spot when her new boss her rifled through her desk and found a photocopy she had taken on the office machine for her own business.

The lesson for facebook is the same for any other "traceable" communication--think before you post and in the words of Deep Throat from The X-Files, "trust noone." :)

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Re: taking "seemingly private Facebook chatter" "out of context", see thoughts by me and others: Facebook Changes Cause Rift in Flow of Personal Information (Michael Zimmer) <http://michaelzimmer.org/2006/09/06/facebook-changes-cause-rift-in-flow-of-p...

More on Facebook and the Contextual Integrity of Personal Information Flows (Michael Zimmer) <http://michaelzimmer.org/2006/09/08/more-on-facebook-and-the-contextual-inte...

Putting Privacy Settings in the Context of Use (in Facebook and elsewhere) (danah boyd) <http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/10/22/putting_privacy.html

How Facebook Broke its Culture (Fred Stutzman) <http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-facebook-broke-its-culture.html

Facebook, Context, and Privacy (William McGeveran) <http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2007/09/17/facebook-context/> and, finally, Yes, Privacy Does Still Exist in a Facebook World (Michael Zimmer) <http://michaelzimmer.org/2009/03/08/yes-privacy-does-still-exist-in-a-facebo...

Are there other good approaches to privacy on Facebook in a contextual frame that I'm missing? -michael. -- Michael Zimmer, PhD Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies Associate, Center for Information Policy Research University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee e: zimmerm@uwm.edu w: www.michaelzimmer.org On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Monica Barratt wrote:

Yes, reading this article certainly brought me back to thinking about the blurry public/private line. I agree that it is mistaken to see this as completely new, rather, it is another way of doing something that has been a threat to employees (and employers in some cases) throughout history, just using different techniques and technology.

This comment struck me: "Our recent story about companies sacking employees over seemingly private Facebook chatter has provoked several new examples from readers who claim their employers took their Facebook postings *out of context* and used them as an excuse to show them the door."

It does seem to be the case that, regardless of the "trust no-one" reality, people feel unfairly treated by these situations where their words are "taken out of context" - from what felt like a private context into a professional context.

Rhiannon, your story about the email has probably happened to so many of us (I can think of a few times emails of mine ended up being read by eyes I had never bargained for). Even though I know all this intellectually, I still get the sense that - generally - my online conversations are just going to be read by those I expect to read them. I find it hard to always apply the rule (act like the whole world will read this!) to everything I say. Well, I have to think about it - it doesn't come naturally to me, let's put it that way.

I'm currently writing up my research with drug users who read and/or participate in online discussions about drugs in public online forums. I asked them to reflect on their concerns about privacy, if they had any, anything they did to mitigate risks. So far I've found a wide range of attitudes and actions taken.. with the younger people and those with less online experience being a lot less concerned.

Monica

2009/4/9 Ben Light <B.Light@salford.ac.uk>

...

Thanks for the link Monica and the discussion. I've just finished a session with a PhD student I am working with who's just about to jump into the field and follow the development and implementation of social media at a network solutions company - her focus is on the possible implications for 'home' and 'work' life.

Of course we found ourselves talking about the telework research of the 80s, but also the pre-industrial revolution cottage industries of the UK! I'm sure we could go back further :O)

Ben.

Ben Light Professor of Digital Media Director IS, Organisations and Society Research Centre Acting Associate Head of School - Research School of Media, Music and Performance The University of Salford Adelphi House Salford M3 6EN

www.smmp.salford.ac.uk www.benlight.org www.isos.salford.ac.uk

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Michael: I love your work! Chris -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Michael Zimmer Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:41 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook posts used to fire people in Australia Re: taking "seemingly private Facebook chatter" "out of context", see thoughts by me and others: Facebook Changes Cause Rift in Flow of Personal Information (Michael Zimmer) <http://michaelzimmer.org/2006/09/06/facebook-changes-cause-rift-in-flow -of-personal-information/

More on Facebook and the Contextual Integrity of Personal Information Flows (Michael Zimmer) <http://michaelzimmer.org/2006/09/08/more-on-facebook-and-the-contextual -integrity-of-personal-information-flows/

Putting Privacy Settings in the Context of Use (in Facebook and elsewhere) (danah boyd) <http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/10/22/putting_privacy.ht ml

How Facebook Broke its Culture (Fred Stutzman) <http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-facebook-broke-its-culture.ht ml

Facebook, Context, and Privacy (William McGeveran) <http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2007/09/17/facebook-context/> and, finally, Yes, Privacy Does Still Exist in a Facebook World (Michael Zimmer) <http://michaelzimmer.org/2009/03/08/yes-privacy-does-still-exist-in-a-f acebook-world/

Are there other good approaches to privacy on Facebook in a contextual frame that I'm missing? -michael. -- Michael Zimmer, PhD Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies Associate, Center for Information Policy Research University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee e: zimmerm@uwm.edu w: www.michaelzimmer.org On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Monica Barratt wrote:

Yes, reading this article certainly brought me back to thinking about the blurry public/private line. I agree that it is mistaken to see this as completely new, rather, it is another way of doing something that has been a threat to employees (and employers in some cases) throughout history, just using different techniques and technology.

This comment struck me: "Our recent story about companies sacking employees over seemingly private Facebook chatter has provoked several new examples from readers who claim their employers took their Facebook postings *out of

context* and used them as an excuse to show them the door."

It does seem to be the case that, regardless of the "trust no-one" reality, people feel unfairly treated by these situations where their words are

"taken out of context" - from what felt like a private context into a professional context.

Rhiannon, your story about the email has probably happened to so many of us (I can think of a few times emails of mine ended up being read by eyes I had never bargained for). Even though I know all this intellectually, I still get the sense that - generally - my online conversations are just going to be read by those I expect to read them. I find it hard to always apply the rule (act like the whole world will read this!) to everything I say. Well, I have to think about it - it doesn't come naturally to me, let's put it

that way.

I'm currently writing up my research with drug users who read and/or participate in online discussions about drugs in public online forums.

I asked them to reflect on their concerns about privacy, if they had any, anything they did to mitigate risks. So far I've found a wide range of attitudes and actions taken.. with the younger people and those with less online experience being a lot less concerned.

Monica

2009/4/9 Ben Light <B.Light@salford.ac.uk>

...

Thanks for the link Monica and the discussion. I've just finished a session with a PhD student I am working with who's just about to jump

...

into the field and follow the development and implementation of social media at a network solutions company - her focus is on the possible implications for 'home' and 'work' life.

Of course we found ourselves talking about the telework research of the 80s, but also the pre-industrial revolution cottage industries of

...

the UK! I'm sure we could go back further :O)

Ben.

Ben Light Professor of Digital Media Director IS, Organisations and Society Research Centre Acting Associate Head of School - Research School of Media, Music and Performance The University of Salford Adelphi House Salford M3 6EN

www.smmp.salford.ac.uk www.benlight.org www.isos.salford.ac.uk

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