Greetings members, I am conducting a research on dialogues around revenge pornography on social media platforms, fb, Twitter and telegram I am using a discourse analysis approach. As part of the analysis, i have picked out several dialogues and screen shot them. My question is would it be ok for me to publish screen shots from the various platforms? I have taken precaution to disguise/hide the names/identities of those commenting. Has anyone engaged in such? And what would be your advice with publishing screen shots? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images? (Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?) So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it. My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer. and good luck! - charles ess On 27/02/2019 17:35, evelyne wanjiku via Air-L wrote:
Greetings members, I am conducting a research on dialogues around revenge pornography on social media platforms, fb, Twitter and telegram I am using a discourse analysis approach. As part of the analysis, i have picked out several dialogues and screen shot them. My question is would it be ok for me to publish screen shots from the various platforms? I have taken precaution to disguise/hide the names/identities of those commenting. Has anyone engaged in such? And what would be your advice with publishing screen shots?
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Good advice. And I agree: let’s start with first question- why do you want to show these images and what would be lost if you didn’t? Best, S
On 27 Feb 2019, at 17:48, Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
On 27/02/2019 17:35, evelyne wanjiku via Air-L wrote: Greetings members, I am conducting a research on dialogues around revenge pornography on social media platforms, fb, Twitter and telegram I am using a discourse analysis approach. As part of the analysis, i have picked out several dialogues and screen shot them. My question is would it be ok for me to publish screen shots from the various platforms? I have taken precaution to disguise/hide the names/identities of those commenting. Has anyone engaged in such? And what would be your advice with publishing screen shots? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
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I had a conversation regarding violating ToS for research purposes with my university’s ethics officer this morning and she made a good point - when users sign up to a social network, they do so assuming their data is protected by the ToS they personally agree too. Violating the ToS May equate to violating the contract of consent between the unknowing subjects of the study and the researcher. It’s a tough one, but necessary to consider! One must tread carefully and think ethically if we are to avoid further restrictions on the collection and utilisation of publicly available data. I would err on the side of caution and not use screen grabs without first requesting the consent of the poster. Amy
On 28 Feb 2019, at 5:24 am, Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> wrote:
Good advice. And I agree: let’s start with first question- why do you want to show these images and what would be lost if you didn’t? Best, S
On 27 Feb 2019, at 17:48, Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
On 27/02/2019 17:35, evelyne wanjiku via Air-L wrote: Greetings members, I am conducting a research on dialogues around revenge pornography on social media platforms, fb, Twitter and telegram I am using a discourse analysis approach. As part of the analysis, i have picked out several dialogues and screen shot them. My question is would it be ok for me to publish screen shots from the various platforms? I have taken precaution to disguise/hide the names/identities of those commenting. Has anyone engaged in such? And what would be your advice with publishing screen shots? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
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It violates the Twitter ToS if you even look at, or worse display/present, the content of deleted Tweets. The practice is one (of many) that cause Twitter fits with academia in general and it has contributed to current state of affairs. Every single spreadsheet (or other non-compliant collection) of Tweets without a live connection to Twitter (to confirm the Tweet is not yet deleted) violates the Twitter ToS and the basic notion of the "right to be forgotten" as articulated through European public policy when a researcher looks at the deleted content. Screenshots of Tweets would not be amenable to automated systems of checking for deletions (unless you attach key metadata and build an API-enabled system for checking deletions in real time). The right to be forgotten is ensured (for now) only at the instant a user of a compliant system seeks to look at a Tweet live in the Twitter display and is unable to see deleted Tweet content. If you kill the connection to live Twitter you preclude, or at least make much more difficult, the possibility for compliance. Looking at the content of Tweets as raw data disconnected from Twitter almost certainly ensures ToS violations and the wrath of Twitter, it also invites a painful future Napster moment in the courts for a handful of the super-abusers of the ToS. I am curious if someone can point to a first rate Office of Sponsored Research document that fully articulates the responsibilities of academic researchers when using Twitter data. What is the state of the art in compliance? Conversely, what are the most problematic ways that academics flout the right to be forgotten by storing, reviewing, and publishing content, for example, from deleted Tweets? Many are unhappy about the changing ecosystem; however how many are willing to accept their share of the responsibility for why things have changed so much so fast? There is work to be done creating a better shared understanding that recognizes the risks when you make humans into research subjects without their consent. On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 7:07 PM Amy Mowle <amy.mowle@live.vu.edu.au> wrote:
I had a conversation regarding violating ToS for research purposes with my university’s ethics officer this morning and she made a good point - when users sign up to a social network, they do so assuming their data is protected by the ToS they personally agree too. Violating the ToS May equate to violating the contract of consent between the unknowing subjects of the study and the researcher.
It’s a tough one, but necessary to consider! One must tread carefully and think ethically if we are to avoid further restrictions on the collection and utilisation of publicly available data. I would err on the side of caution and not use screen grabs without first requesting the consent of the poster.
Amy
On 28 Feb 2019, at 5:24 am, Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> wrote:
Good advice. And I agree: let’s start with first question- why do you want to show these images and what would be lost if you didn’t? Best, S
On 27 Feb 2019, at 17:48, Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
On 27/02/2019 17:35, evelyne wanjiku via Air-L wrote: Greetings members, I am conducting a research on dialogues around revenge pornography on social media platforms, fb, Twitter and telegram I am using a discourse analysis approach. As part of the analysis, i have picked out several dialogues and screen shot them. My question is would it be ok for me to publish screen shots from the various platforms? I have taken precaution to disguise/hide the names/identities of those commenting. Has anyone engaged in such? And what would be your advice with publishing screen shots? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
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Hi I have also been conducting research looking at Facebook conversations (about the online strategies used by strategic impact documentary to engage its audience in changing behaviours and attitudes). As part of my ethics approval I had to agree to not use any screen shots of any comments or reactions from the online audience - I had to paraphrase the conversations instead. In one particular instance this resulted in some of the nuances of a conversation being lost (participants had responded with images rather than comments which are difficult to paraphrase!). One possible way to have got around this would have been to have sought a variation of the ethics approval to approach the participants and ask for their approval to use the comments. This wasn't something I pursued due to time constraints, but it may be something you could do if you have the time. Good luck! Ginny (HDR candidate, QUT Brisbane). ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Stuart Shulman <stuart.shulman@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 1:17 AM To: Amy Mowle Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots It violates the Twitter ToS if you even look at, or worse display/present, the content of deleted Tweets. The practice is one (of many) that cause Twitter fits with academia in general and it has contributed to current state of affairs. Every single spreadsheet (or other non-compliant collection) of Tweets without a live connection to Twitter (to confirm the Tweet is not yet deleted) violates the Twitter ToS and the basic notion of the "right to be forgotten" as articulated through European public policy when a researcher looks at the deleted content. Screenshots of Tweets would not be amenable to automated systems of checking for deletions (unless you attach key metadata and build an API-enabled system for checking deletions in real time). The right to be forgotten is ensured (for now) only at the instant a user of a compliant system seeks to look at a Tweet live in the Twitter display and is unable to see deleted Tweet content. If you kill the connection to live Twitter you preclude, or at least make much more difficult, the possibility for compliance. Looking at the content of Tweets as raw data disconnected from Twitter almost certainly ensures ToS violations and the wrath of Twitter, it also invites a painful future Napster moment in the courts for a handful of the super-abusers of the ToS. I am curious if someone can point to a first rate Office of Sponsored Research document that fully articulates the responsibilities of academic researchers when using Twitter data. What is the state of the art in compliance? Conversely, what are the most problematic ways that academics flout the right to be forgotten by storing, reviewing, and publishing content, for example, from deleted Tweets? Many are unhappy about the changing ecosystem; however how many are willing to accept their share of the responsibility for why things have changed so much so fast? There is work to be done creating a better shared understanding that recognizes the risks when you make humans into research subjects without their consent. On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 7:07 PM Amy Mowle <amy.mowle@live.vu.edu.au> wrote:
I had a conversation regarding violating ToS for research purposes with my university’s ethics officer this morning and she made a good point - when users sign up to a social network, they do so assuming their data is protected by the ToS they personally agree too. Violating the ToS May equate to violating the contract of consent between the unknowing subjects of the study and the researcher.
It’s a tough one, but necessary to consider! One must tread carefully and think ethically if we are to avoid further restrictions on the collection and utilisation of publicly available data. I would err on the side of caution and not use screen grabs without first requesting the consent of the poster.
Amy
On 28 Feb 2019, at 5:24 am, Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> wrote:
Good advice. And I agree: let’s start with first question- why do you want to show these images and what would be lost if you didn’t? Best, S
On 27 Feb 2019, at 17:48, Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
On 27/02/2019 17:35, evelyne wanjiku via Air-L wrote: Greetings members, I am conducting a research on dialogues around revenge pornography on social media platforms, fb, Twitter and telegram I am using a discourse analysis approach. As part of the analysis, i have picked out several dialogues and screen shot them. My question is would it be ok for me to publish screen shots from the various platforms? I have taken precaution to disguise/hide the names/identities of those commenting. Has anyone engaged in such? And what would be your advice with publishing screen shots? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
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This is an interesting discussion. I think Virginia Balfour is right (quoted below). There’s no substitute for permission, which may be troublesome due to the nature of the inquiry - are people who comment on revenge porn likely to consent to having their comments be used as part of research? To me, being published in a research article is different than saying something publicly. If a research article is making a generalization about a practice based on someone’s published comments, doesn’t that add a layer of scrutiny and attention that did not occur in the original context? It seems to me that this ethical concern is greater than the claim that the posts were made publicly. Although some previously published research probably violates this standard, maybe it’s worth discussing in the methodology section. Even if the posts are all anonymized and paraphrased, the results could be sound research. Looking at (n) posts, 42% used phrases like a, b, and c … the only difference is without the screen shots, a reader of the article would have to go to the website to survey the posts independently. On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:49 AM, Virginia Balfour <virginiabalfour@hotmail.com<mailto:virginiabalfour@hotmail.com>> wrote: One possible way to have got around this would have been to have sought a variation of the ethics approval to approach the participants and ask for their approval to use the comments. This wasn't something I pursued due to time constraints, but it may be something you could do if you have the time.
Hi all, very interesting and relevant discussion. I just want to point out that while the following does indeed faithfully represent the letter of Twitter's TOS, it is nigh-impossible to implement technically on one's own. On 2/27/2019 8:17 PM, Stuart Shulman wrote:
Every single spreadsheet (or other non-compliant collection) of Tweets without a live connection to Twitter (to confirm the Tweet is not yet deleted) violates the Twitter ToS and the basic notion of the "right to be forgotten" as articulated through European public policy when a researcher looks at the deleted content.
This being the case, it is no exaggeration to say that the vast majority of published Twitter research probably violates this part of the TOS. Certainly all aggregate studies of Twitter data that haven't purged deleted tweets by the time of publication do. (And what about tweets deleted post-publication?) Unenforceable clauses like this are part of why I have recommended that traditional human subjects concerns, rather than TOS designed for corporate clients, guide researchers' use of social media data. See https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/56f4q and https://medium.com/on-archivy/twitters-developer-policies-for-researchers-ar... All that said, I'd say publishing screenshots of social media content without consent is bad practice in all but the most public of cases. Notice how that differs from following the above TOS provisions to the letter: the ethical standards I apply to these kinds of cases are the same as are commonly used for private communications between researchers and research participants. Best, /DEEN -- Deen Freelon, Ph.D. Associate Professor School of Media and Journalism, UNC-Chapel Hill http://dfreelon.org | @dfreelon <https://twitter.com/dfreelon> | https://github.com/dfreelon
Hello everyone 😊 This has been a very rich discussion. I see a few answers here, so I believe that as always, it would absolutely depend on what the research questions exactly are. For my own research, it was more suitable to use text that is publicly accessible on Facebook (as an example, remove unnecessary identifiable info before analysis and distorting the text (changing a few words here and there) so that a reverse search doesn’t reidentify the contributors. This advice has been supported by peers, my supervisor and the following guidelines from the AOIR: https://aoir.org/reports/ethics2.pdf As Charles Ess and Amy have mentioned below, it is possible (and I have read a few studies) where similar procedures can be applied to conversations where images are also involved. Of course other ethical considerations would depend on the source of the conversations and the images involved. Lena From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Amy Mowle Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2019 11:07 AM To: Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots I had a conversation regarding violating ToS for research purposes with my university’s ethics officer this morning and she made a good point - when users sign up to a social network, they do so assuming their data is protected by the ToS they personally agree too. Violating the ToS May equate to violating the contract of consent between the unknowing subjects of the study and the researcher. It’s a tough one, but necessary to consider! One must tread carefully and think ethically if we are to avoid further restrictions on the collection and utilisation of publicly available data. I would err on the side of caution and not use screen grabs without first requesting the consent of the poster. Amy
On 28 Feb 2019, at 5:24 am, Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk<mailto:S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk>> wrote:
Good advice. And I agree: let’s start with first question- why do you want to show these images and what would be lost if you didn’t? Best, S
On 27 Feb 2019, at 17:48, Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no<mailto:c.m.ess@media.uio.no>> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
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Hi all, Thanks for the interesting discussion. I just wanted to add that IMO one aspect worth considering is that not all screenshots are equal. A public joke comment on an open post is radically different from a telegram message between two users when it comes to reproduction. Moreover, practical application: I now want to share this discussion with our gard students, who face similar dilemmas. Yet they are not in the mailing list. Should I be able to screenshot this thread? It doesn't seem ethical, even though all people commenting here understand the public nature of the forum. Then summarise the discussion instead? But then it loses the nuance of experience researchers bringing their own unique perspective... Alex. On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 07:35 Lena Molnar <lena.molnar@rmit.edu.au> wrote:
Hello everyone 😊
This has been a very rich discussion. I see a few answers here, so I believe that as always, it would absolutely depend on what the research questions exactly are. For my own research, it was more suitable to use text that is publicly accessible on Facebook (as an example, remove unnecessary identifiable info before analysis and distorting the text (changing a few words here and there) so that a reverse search doesn’t reidentify the contributors. This advice has been supported by peers, my supervisor and the following guidelines from the AOIR: https://aoir.org/reports/ethics2.pdf
As Charles Ess and Amy have mentioned below, it is possible (and I have read a few studies) where similar procedures can be applied to conversations where images are also involved. Of course other ethical considerations would depend on the source of the conversations and the images involved.
Lena
From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Amy Mowle Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2019 11:07 AM To: Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
I had a conversation regarding violating ToS for research purposes with my university’s ethics officer this morning and she made a good point - when users sign up to a social network, they do so assuming their data is protected by the ToS they personally agree too. Violating the ToS May equate to violating the contract of consent between the unknowing subjects of the study and the researcher.
It’s a tough one, but necessary to consider! One must tread carefully and think ethically if we are to avoid further restrictions on the collection and utilisation of publicly available data. I would err on the side of caution and not use screen grabs without first requesting the consent of the poster.
Amy
On 28 Feb 2019, at 5:24 am, Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk <mailto:S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk>> wrote:
Good advice. And I agree: let’s start with first question- why do you want to show these images and what would be lost if you didn’t? Best, S
On 27 Feb 2019, at 17:48, Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no<mailto: c.m.ess@media.uio.no>> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
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Dear Alex Gekker, I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more. For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation. I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place. Chris
Hello everyone, in this case, I would not take much in account what the platforms say or not say about the content users generate in them, because let us be honest, platforms want to do business and their terms of use are aligned with that objective. The first question I would ask is, do these users want their content to be public in the first place? Many of the people who are object to revenge porn were coerced to make it on the first place, and many others keep suffering the consequences. The last thing they want is for their content to be reused without their permission. I would suggest to present the research findings in an aggregated way to avoid identification of individuals, but more than anything, to work together with these individuals when such sensitive topics are being researched. In that way, we can build trust and also find better research methods that respect boundaries. Regards, Xanat V. Meza Ph.D. candidate - Kansei, Behavioral and Brain SciencesUniversity of Tsukuba M.A. Media and Communication Yeungnam University B.D. Graphic Communication Design Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana El jueves, 28 de febrero de 2019 5:05:53 p. m. GMT+9, Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc@hotmail.com> escribió: Dear Alex Gekker, I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more. For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation. I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place. Chris _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Dear all, It also depends on the image, for example if people respond with a widely circulated meme it is different than with a selfie. It would be good practice to check the regulation on CC (creative commons) - some images can fall under that and hence, you may be able to use them with due attribution. Best regards, ISABEL GALVIS, M.A. Google Certified Professional | Yahoo! Search Marketing Ambassador Microsoft adExcellence Member | Bing Advertisement Professional E: isabelgalvis@gmail.com | LI: Linkedin.com/isabelgalvis | T: @isabelgalvis -----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Chris Leslie Sent: 28 February 2019 08:05 To: Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Dear Alex Gekker, I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more. For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation. I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place. Chris _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faoir.org&data=02%7C01%7Cgalvisi%40uni.coventry.ac.uk%7Ce3701ab8ffe7491576e608d69d53a040%7C4b18ab9a37654abeac7c0e0d398afd4f%7C0%7C0%7C636869379826084161&sdata=3sDrIIAi6ILkq6Hf8Ur1M8TuNLv%2FqED0IonjJGmbmiU%3D&reserved=0 Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flistserv.aoir.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fair-l-aoir.org&data=02%7C01%7Cgalvisi%40uni.coventry.ac.uk%7Ce3701ab8ffe7491576e608d69d53a040%7C4b18ab9a37654abeac7c0e0d398afd4f%7C0%7C0%7C636869379826094166&sdata=TsQuwOFz3DEzBhk9%2FVu54ChvIHBYXLs8TVYUDh%2FEoOQ%3D&reserved=0 Join the Association of Internet Researchers: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aoir.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cgalvisi%40uni.coventry.ac.uk%7Ce3701ab8ffe7491576e608d69d53a040%7C4b18ab9a37654abeac7c0e0d398afd4f%7C0%7C0%7C636869379826094166&sdata=RK7yyWo%2FcFslHxpuWQY9VgSqDfVugwq760kEkuaSQbM%3D&reserved=0 University of the Year for Student Experience The Times and Sunday Times Good University Guide 2019 2nd for Teaching Excellence Times Higher Education UK (TEF) metrics ranking 2017 – Gold winner 5th UK Student City QS Best Student Cities Index 2018 13th in Guardian University Guide 2019 of 121 UK institutions ranked NOTICE This message and any files transmitted with it is intended for the addressee only and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, you should not read, copy, disclose or otherwise use this message, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. Any views or opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Coventry University.
Also, worst case scenario you could do a new ethics application and get consent from the authors of the images to use them. Best regards, ISABEL GALVIS, M.A. Google Certified Professional | Yahoo! Search Marketing Ambassador Microsoft adExcellence Member | Bing Advertisement Professional E: isabelgalvis@gmail.com | LI: Linkedin.com/isabelgalvis | T: @isabelgalvis -----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Chris Leslie Sent: 28 February 2019 08:05 To: Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Dear Alex Gekker, I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more. For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation. I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place. Chris _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faoir.org&data=02%7C01%7Cgalvisi%40uni.coventry.ac.uk%7Ce3701ab8ffe7491576e608d69d53a040%7C4b18ab9a37654abeac7c0e0d398afd4f%7C0%7C0%7C636869379826084161&sdata=3sDrIIAi6ILkq6Hf8Ur1M8TuNLv%2FqED0IonjJGmbmiU%3D&reserved=0 Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flistserv.aoir.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fair-l-aoir.org&data=02%7C01%7Cgalvisi%40uni.coventry.ac.uk%7Ce3701ab8ffe7491576e608d69d53a040%7C4b18ab9a37654abeac7c0e0d398afd4f%7C0%7C0%7C636869379826094166&sdata=TsQuwOFz3DEzBhk9%2FVu54ChvIHBYXLs8TVYUDh%2FEoOQ%3D&reserved=0 Join the Association of Internet Researchers: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aoir.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cgalvisi%40uni.coventry.ac.uk%7Ce3701ab8ffe7491576e608d69d53a040%7C4b18ab9a37654abeac7c0e0d398afd4f%7C0%7C0%7C636869379826094166&sdata=RK7yyWo%2FcFslHxpuWQY9VgSqDfVugwq760kEkuaSQbM%3D&reserved=0 University of the Year for Student Experience The Times and Sunday Times Good University Guide 2019 2nd for Teaching Excellence Times Higher Education UK (TEF) metrics ranking 2017 – Gold winner 5th UK Student City QS Best Student Cities Index 2018 13th in Guardian University Guide 2019 of 121 UK institutions ranked NOTICE This message and any files transmitted with it is intended for the addressee only and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, you should not read, copy, disclose or otherwise use this message, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. Any views or opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Coventry University.
Dear all Please note that, generally, the author of an image of revenge porn is an abuser of the victim portrayed therein! Best, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: Air-L [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Isabel Galvis Sent: 28 February 2019 10:29 To: Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc@hotmail.com>; Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Importance: High Also, worst case scenario you could do a new ethics application and get consent from the authors of the images to use them. Best regards, ISABEL GALVIS, M.A. Google Certified Professional | Yahoo! Search Marketing Ambassador Microsoft adExcellence Member | Bing Advertisement Professional E: isabelgalvis@gmail.com | LI: Linkedin.com/isabelgalvis | T: @isabelgalvis -----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Chris Leslie Sent: 28 February 2019 08:05 To: Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Dear Alex Gekker, I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more. For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation. I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place. 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Hello everyone! Please consider using the AOIR workgroup Discord group to discuss more comfortably, it would fit the conversation better - and it would definitely be easier to follow! If you think it could suit the conversation, an "ethics" discussion group / text channel can be found here: https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf Thank you for the consideration, we are waiting for you there! All the best, Ilir [https://discordapp.com/assets/ee7c382d9257652a88c8f7b7f22a994d.png]<https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf> Discord - Free voice and text chat for gamers<https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf> Step up your game with a modern voice & text chat app. Crystal clear voice, multiple server and channel support, mobile apps, and more. Get your free server now! discord.gg ________________________________ Da: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> per conto di Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> Inviato: giovedì 28 febbraio 2019 11:56 A: Isabel Galvis; Chris Leslie; Alex Gekker Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Oggetto: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Dear all Please note that, generally, the author of an image of revenge porn is an abuser of the victim portrayed therein! Best, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: Air-L [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Isabel Galvis Sent: 28 February 2019 10:29 To: Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc@hotmail.com>; Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Importance: High Also, worst case scenario you could do a new ethics application and get consent from the authors of the images to use them. Best regards, ISABEL GALVIS, M.A. Google Certified Professional | Yahoo! Search Marketing Ambassador Microsoft adExcellence Member | Bing Advertisement Professional E: isabelgalvis@gmail.com | LI: Linkedin.com/isabelgalvis | T: @isabelgalvis -----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Chris Leslie Sent: 28 February 2019 08:05 To: Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Dear Alex Gekker, I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more. For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation. I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place. 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Hello everyone, Seconding Ilir's suggestion for chatting in the discourse group. It's getting a bit unwieldy! (Fully aware I'm contributing to this by sending an email but thought I'd add support) Cheers. On Thu, 28 Feb 2019, 14:50 Ilir Rama, <pirorama@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone! Please consider using the AOIR workgroup Discord group to discuss more comfortably, it would fit the conversation better - and it would definitely be easier to follow! If you think it could suit the conversation, an "ethics" discussion group / text channel can be found here: https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf
Thank you for the consideration, we are waiting for you there!
All the best, Ilir [https://discordapp.com/assets/ee7c382d9257652a88c8f7b7f22a994d.png]<; https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf>
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________________________________ Da: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> per conto di Livingstone,S < S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> Inviato: giovedì 28 febbraio 2019 11:56 A: Isabel Galvis; Chris Leslie; Alex Gekker Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Oggetto: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
Dear all
Please note that, generally, the author of an image of revenge porn is an abuser of the victim portrayed therein!
Best, Sonia
-----Original Message----- From: Air-L [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Isabel Galvis Sent: 28 February 2019 10:29 To: Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc@hotmail.com>; Alex Gekker < gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Importance: High
Also, worst case scenario you could do a new ethics application and get consent from the authors of the images to use them.
Best regards,
ISABEL GALVIS, M.A. Google Certified Professional | Yahoo! Search Marketing Ambassador Microsoft adExcellence Member | Bing Advertisement Professional E: isabelgalvis@gmail.com | LI: Linkedin.com/isabelgalvis | T: @isabelgalvis
-----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Chris Leslie Sent: 28 February 2019 08:05 To: Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
Dear Alex Gekker,
I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more.
For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation.
I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place.
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I think people can probably choose for themselves whether they want to use the listserv for one of its intended purposes (discussion), or migrate to a new proprietary platform, or both. On 1/3/19, 12:53 am, "Air-L on behalf of Giancarlo M. Sandoval" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of gsmicro.nics@gmail.com> wrote: Hello everyone, Seconding Ilir's suggestion for chatting in the discourse group. It's getting a bit unwieldy! (Fully aware I'm contributing to this by sending an email but thought I'd add support) Cheers. On Thu, 28 Feb 2019, 14:50 Ilir Rama, <pirorama@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone! > Please consider using the AOIR workgroup Discord group to discuss more > comfortably, it would fit the conversation better - and it would definitely > be easier to follow! > If you think it could suit the conversation, an "ethics" discussion group > / text channel can be found here: https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf > > Thank you for the consideration, we are waiting for you there! > > All the best, > Ilir > [https://discordapp.com/assets/ee7c382d9257652a88c8f7b7f22a994d.png]<; > https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf> > > Discord - Free voice and text chat for gamers<https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf> > Step up your game with a modern voice & text chat app. Crystal clear > voice, multiple server and channel support, mobile apps, and more. 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Search Marketing Ambassador > Microsoft adExcellence Member | Bing Advertisement Professional > E: isabelgalvis@gmail.com | LI: Linkedin.com/isabelgalvis | T: > @isabelgalvis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Chris Leslie > Sent: 28 February 2019 08:05 > To: Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> > Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots > > Dear Alex Gekker, > > I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. > However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query > goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the > human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you > suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about > more. > > For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes > of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x > number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could > rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if > forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the > discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, > I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a > human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in > sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human > subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission > afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could > still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the > conversation. > > I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their > opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are > ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t > involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the > foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an > article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement > of the academic journal. 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I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps. On 28/02/2019, 22:18, "Air-L on behalf of Jean Burgess" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of je.burgess@qut.edu.au> wrote: I think people can probably choose for themselves whether they want to use the listserv for one of its intended purposes (discussion), or migrate to a new proprietary platform, or both. On 1/3/19, 12:53 am, "Air-L on behalf of Giancarlo M. Sandoval" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of gsmicro.nics@gmail.com> wrote: Hello everyone, Seconding Ilir's suggestion for chatting in the discourse group. It's getting a bit unwieldy! (Fully aware I'm contributing to this by sending an email but thought I'd add support) Cheers. On Thu, 28 Feb 2019, 14:50 Ilir Rama, <pirorama@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone! > Please consider using the AOIR workgroup Discord group to discuss more > comfortably, it would fit the conversation better - and it would definitely > be easier to follow! > If you think it could suit the conversation, an "ethics" discussion group > / text channel can be found here: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscord.gg%2FDVXDYBf&data=02%7C01%7Cb.light%40salford.ac.uk%7C194fee14306a4297519808d69dcaa4a8%7C65b52940f4b641bd833d3033ecbcf6e1%7C0%7C0%7C636869891013801209&sdata=iBXkEwLYRbdbbX7zu5tjGqvm3gcNhuxQlgVBg4LcbpI%3D&reserved=0 > > Thank you for the consideration, we are waiting for you there! > > All the best, > Ilir > [https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscordapp.com%2Fassets%2Fee7c382d9257652a88c8f7b7f22a994d.png&data=02%7C01%7Cb.light%40salford.ac.uk%7C194fee14306a4297519808d69dcaa4a8%7C65b52940f4b641bd833d3033ecbcf6e1%7C0%7C0%7C636869891013801209&sdata=3aY13fXlKLryRDJElSgoosaqkpxOPZES4dr81yKbmi0%3D&reserved=0]<; > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscord.gg%2FDVXDYBf&data=02%7C01%7Cb.light%40salford.ac.uk%7C194fee14306a4297519808d69dcaa4a8%7C65b52940f4b641bd833d3033ecbcf6e1%7C0%7C0%7C636869891013801209&sdata=iBXkEwLYRbdbbX7zu5tjGqvm3gcNhuxQlgVBg4LcbpI%3D&reserved=0> > > Discord - Free voice and text chat for gamers<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscord.gg%2FDVXDYBf&data=02%7C01%7Cb.light%40salford.ac.uk%7C194fee14306a4297519808d69dcaa4a8%7C65b52940f4b641bd833d3033ecbcf6e1%7C0%7C0%7C636869891013801209&sdata=iBXkEwLYRbdbbX7zu5tjGqvm3gcNhuxQlgVBg4LcbpI%3D&reserved=0> > Step up your game with a modern voice & text chat app. Crystal clear > voice, multiple server and channel support, mobile apps, and more. Get your > free server now! > discord.gg > > > > ________________________________ > Da: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> per conto di Livingstone,S < > S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> > Inviato: giovedì 28 febbraio 2019 11:56 > A: Isabel Galvis; Chris Leslie; Alex Gekker > Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org > Oggetto: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots > > Dear all > > Please note that, generally, the author of an image of revenge porn is an > abuser of the victim portrayed therein! > > Best, Sonia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Air-L [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Isabel > Galvis > Sent: 28 February 2019 10:29 > To: Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc@hotmail.com>; Alex Gekker < > gekker.alex@gmail.com> > Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots > Importance: High > > Also, worst case scenario you could do a new ethics application and get > consent from the authors of the images to use them. > > > Best regards, > > > ISABEL GALVIS, M.A. > Google Certified Professional | Yahoo! 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I also think the difference you > suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about > more. > > For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes > of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x > number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could > rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if > forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the > discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, > I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a > human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in > sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human > subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission > afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could > still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the > conversation. > > I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their > opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are > ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t > involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the > foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an > article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement > of the academic journal. 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As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead. Holly Kruse
On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote:
I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps.
I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all. that's what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :) - rick
On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com> wrote:
As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead.
Holly Kruse
On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote:
I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps.
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Friends I agree with Holly and Rick, this list is a great way to keep up with things that are ongoing within Internet studies, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to, as Rick said, "peruse them at my leisure." This list often stimulates my thinking and helps me feel a sense of belonging within the academic community. As always, my thanks, Peter On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org> wrote:
I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all. that's what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :)
- rick
On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com> wrote:
As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead.
Holly Kruse
On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote:
I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps.
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My Fellow AoIRistas I wholly agree with Holly and am wondering if there is a better platform for these kinds of discussions than a good old listerserv that AoIR might consider as an alternative. Thoughts? Also, what is "the Discourse discussion"? I know Axel mentioned it in his missive on methods. Is he referring to Discourse the gaming comm platform or some other "Discourse" place/site/platform? Take care Andrew ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Peter Gloviczki <pgloviczki@coker.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:26 PM To: Richard Forno Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Friends I agree with Holly and Rick, this list is a great way to keep up with things that are ongoing within Internet studies, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to, as Rick said, "peruse them at my leisure." This list often stimulates my thinking and helps me feel a sense of belonging within the academic community. As always, my thanks, Peter On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org> wrote:
I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all. that's what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :)
- rick
On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com> wrote:
As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead.
Holly Kruse
On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote:
I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps.
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Ahem, yes, it's not Discourse, it's Discord. I mis-typed. Or perhaps I can blame auto-correct. Definitely not my lack of coolness though. Discord is like Slack or IRC but started in the gaming community. I had never heard of it until this year, when first my undergrads and then my grad students set up Discords for class and for their internal (non-gaming-related) communication. So now I am totally up to date on what it is. A problem with moving from the listserv is that no matter what we choose to move to, it'll be a platform that won't be here (or at least won't be cool) in five years. Email seems likely to stay, although perhaps only us oldies will be using it? Jill On 01/03/2019, 12:50, "Air-L on behalf of Andrew Herman" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of aherman@wlu.ca> wrote: My Fellow AoIRistas I wholly agree with Holly and am wondering if there is a better platform for these kinds of discussions than a good old listerserv that AoIR might consider as an alternative. Thoughts? Also, what is "the Discourse discussion"? I know Axel mentioned it in his missive on methods. Is he referring to Discourse the gaming comm platform or some other "Discourse" place/site/platform? Take care Andrew ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Peter Gloviczki <pgloviczki@coker.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:26 PM To: Richard Forno Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Friends I agree with Holly and Rick, this list is a great way to keep up with things that are ongoing within Internet studies, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to, as Rick said, "peruse them at my leisure." This list often stimulates my thinking and helps me feel a sense of belonging within the academic community. As always, my thanks, Peter On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org> wrote: > > I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over > the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, > thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping > ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others > do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all. that's > what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :) > > - rick > > > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t > particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let > me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s > useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become > an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – > and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others > would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of > discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead. > > > > Holly Kruse > > > > > >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote: > >> > >> I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv > stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - > like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been > reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need > to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe > I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we > post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like > when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't > mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I > am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, > to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, > in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where > research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for > different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more > words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry > folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2faoir.org&c=E,1,FM7B85VVM0... > > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flistserv.aoir.org%2flisti... > > > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aoir.org%2f&c=E,1,Mt1... > > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2faoir.org&c=E,1,JTXQndLg-z... > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flistserv.aoir.org%2flisti... > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aoir.org%2f&c=E,1,KcB... -- *Peter Joseph Gloviczki, Ph.D.* *Assistant Professor of Communication, Coker College* *p* 843-383-8379 | *e* pgloviczki@coker.edu 300 E. College Ave. | Hartsville, SC https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fcoker.edu&c=E,1,oCzrYUgN... | https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fcokercobras.com&c=E,1,OK... _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2faoir.org&c=E,1,rnl9SonBUI... Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flistserv.aoir.org%2flisti... Join the Association of Internet Researchers: https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aoir.org%2f&c=E,1,lRn... _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Discord! Of course! How does one find the discussion on Discord, btw? Andrew ________________________________ From: Jill Walker Rettberg <Jill.Walker.Rettberg@uib.no> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:12 AM To: Andrew Herman Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Ahem, yes, it's not Discourse, it's Discord. I mis-typed. Or perhaps I can blame auto-correct. Definitely not my lack of coolness though. Discord is like Slack or IRC but started in the gaming community. I had never heard of it until this year, when first my undergrads and then my grad students set up Discords for class and for their internal (non-gaming-related) communication. So now I am totally up to date on what it is. A problem with moving from the listserv is that no matter what we choose to move to, it'll be a platform that won't be here (or at least won't be cool) in five years. Email seems likely to stay, although perhaps only us oldies will be using it? Jill On 01/03/2019, 12:50, "Air-L on behalf of Andrew Herman" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of aherman@wlu.ca> wrote: My Fellow AoIRistas I wholly agree with Holly and am wondering if there is a better platform for these kinds of discussions than a good old listerserv that AoIR might consider as an alternative. Thoughts? Also, what is "the Discourse discussion"? I know Axel mentioned it in his missive on methods. Is he referring to Discourse the gaming comm platform or some other "Discourse" place/site/platform? Take care Andrew ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Peter Gloviczki <pgloviczki@coker.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:26 PM To: Richard Forno Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Friends I agree with Holly and Rick, this list is a great way to keep up with things that are ongoing within Internet studies, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to, as Rick said, "peruse them at my leisure." This list often stimulates my thinking and helps me feel a sense of belonging within the academic community. As always, my thanks, Peter On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org> wrote: > > I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over > the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, > thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping > ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others > do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all. that's > what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :) > > - rick > > > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t > particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let > me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s > useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become > an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – > and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others > would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of > discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead. > > > > Holly Kruse > > > > > >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote: > >> > >> I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv > stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - > like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been > reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need > to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe > I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we > post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like > when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't > mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I > am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, > to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, > in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where > research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for > different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more > words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. 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Hi all, Here is the link to the discord discussion and peer-mentoring group. Please join if you think it might be helpful. https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf With best wishes, Dheepa Dheepa Sundaram, PhD Assistant Professor of Religious Studies Sturm Hall 487F 303.871.2888 iRise Fellow University of Denver she/her/hers Website: digitaldarsanparty.com<http://digitaldarsanparty.com> Twitter: @themodsisyphus On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 7:44 AM Andrew Herman <aherman@wlu.ca<mailto:aherman@wlu.ca>> wrote: Discord! Of course! How does one find the discussion on Discord, btw? Andrew ________________________________ From: Jill Walker Rettberg <Jill.Walker.Rettberg@uib.no<mailto:Jill.Walker.Rettberg@uib.no>> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:12 AM To: Andrew Herman Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Ahem, yes, it's not Discourse, it's Discord. I mis-typed. Or perhaps I can blame auto-correct. Definitely not my lack of coolness though. Discord is like Slack or IRC but started in the gaming community. I had never heard of it until this year, when first my undergrads and then my grad students set up Discords for class and for their internal (non-gaming-related) communication. So now I am totally up to date on what it is. A problem with moving from the listserv is that no matter what we choose to move to, it'll be a platform that won't be here (or at least won't be cool) in five years. Email seems likely to stay, although perhaps only us oldies will be using it? Jill On 01/03/2019, 12:50, "Air-L on behalf of Andrew Herman" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of aherman@wlu.ca<mailto:aherman@wlu.ca>> wrote: My Fellow AoIRistas I wholly agree with Holly and am wondering if there is a better platform for these kinds of discussions than a good old listerserv that AoIR might consider as an alternative. Thoughts? Also, what is "the Discourse discussion"? I know Axel mentioned it in his missive on methods. Is he referring to Discourse the gaming comm platform or some other "Discourse" place/site/platform? Take care Andrew ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org>> on behalf of Peter Gloviczki <pgloviczki@coker.edu<mailto:pgloviczki@coker.edu>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:26 PM To: Richard Forno Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots Friends I agree with Holly and Rick, this list is a great way to keep up with things that are ongoing within Internet studies, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to, as Rick said, "peruse them at my leisure." This list often stimulates my thinking and helps me feel a sense of belonging within the academic community. As always, my thanks, Peter On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org<mailto:rforno@infowarrior.org>> wrote: > > I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over > the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, > thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping > ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others > do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all. that's > what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :) > > - rick > > > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com<mailto:holly.kruse@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t > particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let > me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s > useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become > an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – > and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others > would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of > discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead. > > > > Holly Kruse > > > > > >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk<mailto:B.Light@salford.ac.uk>> wrote: > >> > >> I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv > stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - > like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been > reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need > to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe > I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we > post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like > when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't > mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I > am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, > to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, > in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where > research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for > different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more > words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry > folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list > > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2faoir.org&c=E,1,FM7B85VVM0... > > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flistserv.aoir.org%2flisti... > > > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aoir.org%2f&c=E,1,Mt1... > > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2faoir.org&c=E,1,JTXQndLg-z... > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flistserv.aoir.org%2flisti... > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aoir.org%2f&c=E,1,KcB... -- *Peter Joseph Gloviczki, Ph.D.* *Assistant Professor of Communication, Coker College* *p* 843-383-8379 | *e* pgloviczki@coker.edu<mailto:pgloviczki@coker.edu> 300 E. 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Lots of people there Do we need a channel for screenshots?:) Let me or other admins know. On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:22 AM Dheepa Sundaram <Dheepa.Sundaram@du.edu> wrote:
Hi all,
Here is the link to the discord discussion and peer-mentoring group. Please join if you think it might be helpful.
With best wishes, Dheepa
Dheepa Sundaram, PhD Assistant Professor of Religious Studies Sturm Hall 487F 303.871.2888 iRise Fellow University of Denver she/her/hers Website: digitaldarsanparty.com<http://digitaldarsanparty.com> Twitter: @themodsisyphus
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 7:44 AM Andrew Herman <aherman@wlu.ca<mailto: aherman@wlu.ca>> wrote: Discord! Of course!
How does one find the discussion on Discord, btw?
Andrew ________________________________ From: Jill Walker Rettberg <Jill.Walker.Rettberg@uib.no<mailto: Jill.Walker.Rettberg@uib.no>> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:12 AM To: Andrew Herman Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
Ahem, yes, it's not Discourse, it's Discord. I mis-typed. Or perhaps I can blame auto-correct. Definitely not my lack of coolness though. Discord is like Slack or IRC but started in the gaming community. I had never heard of it until this year, when first my undergrads and then my grad students set up Discords for class and for their internal (non-gaming-related) communication. So now I am totally up to date on what it is.
A problem with moving from the listserv is that no matter what we choose to move to, it'll be a platform that won't be here (or at least won't be cool) in five years. Email seems likely to stay, although perhaps only us oldies will be using it?
Jill
On 01/03/2019, 12:50, "Air-L on behalf of Andrew Herman" < air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of aherman@wlu.ca<mailto:aherman@wlu.ca>> wrote:
My Fellow AoIRistas
I wholly agree with Holly and am wondering if there is a better platform for these kinds of discussions than a good old listerserv that AoIR might consider as an alternative. Thoughts?
Also, what is "the Discourse discussion"? I know Axel mentioned it in his missive on methods. Is he referring to Discourse the gaming comm platform or some other "Discourse" place/site/platform?
Take care
Andrew ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org<mailto: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org>> on behalf of Peter Gloviczki < pgloviczki@coker.edu<mailto:pgloviczki@coker.edu>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:26 PM To: Richard Forno Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
Friends
I agree with Holly and Rick, this list is a great way to keep up with things that are ongoing within Internet studies, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to, as Rick said, "peruse them at my leisure." This list often stimulates my thinking and helps me feel a sense of belonging within the academic community.
As always, my thanks, Peter
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org <mailto:rforno@infowarrior.org>> wrote:
> > I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over > the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, > thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping > ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others > do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all. that's > what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :) > > - rick > > > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com <mailto:holly.kruse@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t > particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let > me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s > useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become > an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – > and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others > would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of > discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead. > > > > Holly Kruse > > > > > >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk <mailto:B.Light@salford.ac.uk>> wrote: > >> > >> I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv > stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - > like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been > reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need > to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe > I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we > post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like > when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't > mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I > am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, > to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, > in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where > research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for > different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more > words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry > folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list > > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2faoir.org&c=E,1,FM7B85VVM0... > > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flistserv.aoir.org%2flisti... > > > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aoir.org%2f&c=E,1,Mt1... > > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2faoir.org&c=E,1,JTXQndLg-z... > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flistserv.aoir.org%2flisti... > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aoir.org%2f&c=E,1,KcB...
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And you know ... it doesn’t have to be either/or On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:50 AM Andrew Herman <aherman@wlu.ca> wrote:
My Fellow AoIRistas
I wholly agree with Holly and am wondering if there is a better platform for these kinds of discussions than a good old listerserv that AoIR might consider as an alternative. Thoughts?
Also, what is "the Discourse discussion"? I know Axel mentioned it in his missive on methods. Is he referring to Discourse the gaming comm platform or some other "Discourse" place/site/platform?
Take care
Andrew ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Peter Gloviczki <pgloviczki@coker.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:26 PM To: Richard Forno Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
Friends
I agree with Holly and Rick, this list is a great way to keep up with things that are ongoing within Internet studies, and I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to, as Rick said, "peruse them at my leisure." This list often stimulates my thinking and helps me feel a sense of belonging within the academic community.
As always, my thanks, Peter
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM Richard Forno <rforno@infowarrior.org> wrote:
I agree w/Holly (and have also managed many *very* high volume lists over the years). These active discussions - when they come up - are useful, thought-provoking, and make our tribe's list more than just a dumping ground for CFPs and job postings. Sure, some topics interest me, others do not, but either way I just peruse them @ my leisure. After all.
what e-mail filters/rules and folders are for! :)
- rick
On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Holly Kruse <holly.kruse@gmail.com> wrote:
As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead.
Holly Kruse
On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote:
I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye
that's -
like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps.
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I agree! I haven't joined the Discourse discussion because the topic's not quite central enough to what I do, but I like being able to watch conversations on this list, and I like knowing about internet research that's not exactly what I do. This is my favourite academic listserv precisely BECAUSE of the discussions. So many other lists are just announcement lists which is boring. Jill On 01/03/2019, 01:17, "Air-L on behalf of Holly Kruse" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of holly.kruse@gmail.com> wrote: As someone with a heavy teaching load in a school where research isn’t particularly valued, and as a person who managed air-l for seven years, let me add that I have very much appreciated reading this discussion. It’s useful, relevant, and to me, what makes air-l vital. It could just become an announcements only list used to circulate CFPs and job announcements – and it sometimes feels like that what air-l is – but I and many others would hate that. I’m not at a university where I can have this sort of discussion with my colleagues. I rely on air-l instead. Holly Kruse > On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Light Ben <B.Light@salford.ac.uk> wrote: > > I agree with Jean. I have to be honest, I delete a chunk of list serv stuff due to being busy, but every now and then something catches my eye - like this and I engage. I also read a lot and don't engage. I've been reading the ethics stuff viz screenshots for example but not felt the need to post (so unmanly). I like the discussion aspect of the list here. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But without the discussion, it becomes just a space we post in without engagement, and I’m not so much interested in that. I like when we raise issues and chat about them. I can easily delete stuff I don't mind wading through discussion threads if I am interested. I delete what I am not bothered about (sorry folks!). For me the list is a touch point, to keep connected with a community in the midst of (in my job) management, in another context I could imagine (a heavy teaching load in a school where research and educational enquiry isn't valued. Different channels for different folks I say. There I just said what Jean said, but used more words and space, because I'm a chatterbox - and likely coz I'm a man. Sorry folks/jean for manspreading virtually - but I hope this helps. _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Agreed! We need multiple formats it’s never been either or. On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:25 PM Jean Burgess <je.burgess@qut.edu.au> wrote:
I think people can probably choose for themselves whether they want to use the listserv for one of its intended purposes (discussion), or migrate to a new proprietary platform, or both.
On 1/3/19, 12:53 am, "Air-L on behalf of Giancarlo M. Sandoval" < air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of gsmicro.nics@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Seconding Ilir's suggestion for chatting in the discourse group. It's getting a bit unwieldy!
(Fully aware I'm contributing to this by sending an email but thought I'd add support)
Cheers.
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> Hello everyone! > Please consider using the AOIR workgroup Discord group to discuss more > comfortably, it would fit the conversation better - and it would definitely > be easier to follow! > If you think it could suit the conversation, an "ethics" discussion group > / text channel can be found here: https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf > > Thank you for the consideration, we are waiting for you there! > > All the best, > Ilir > [https://discordapp.com/assets/ee7c382d9257652a88c8f7b7f22a994d.png ]< > https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf> > > Discord - Free voice and text chat for gamers< https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf> > Step up your game with a modern voice & text chat app. Crystal clear > voice, multiple server and channel support, mobile apps, and more. 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Dear Chris, I never try to be clever, it's no longer fundable :) Seriously, maybe it came out a bit more flippant than intended - probably partially due to medium-specificity: I typed the original response on a smartphone, thus brevity. I was really just trying to give a contextual example of social media public-ness and subsequent gradient of use in various forms, using this thread as a handy example. Your follow up examples corroborate my initial intent. That being said, I *would* like to screenshot this thread for our MA students and discuss this with them. I would invite the thread to think me with about the ethics of such act, in relation to the original questions. I could email you all a consent form or do an "opt-out" comment (which might be truer to the spirit of the mailing-list-as-platform) or I can crop out the names of the respondents. These are choices that researchers have to engage with (especially in places, like ours, that lack ethics boards and clear procedures). Alex. On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 9:05 AM Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Alex Gekker,
I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more.
For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation.
I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place.
Chris
When Twitter cut off commercial relations with our NSF-funded, academic-driven, Twitter service, thereby undermining a product that lost money for 6 years in the midst of the first year it was about to make a small profit they pointed to specific studies on this list (below) as proof of why academic disregard for the corporate legal terms that govern their property (ie., all Tweets) justified killing a very unique service that academics ask to use every week. https://discovertext.com/publications/ It is goes against the views of many, but when you use the massive and ecologically-destructive, energy-intensive platform like Twitter, even just to Tweet a picture of a great pizza, someone has to pay for every part of the experience, including the indefinite storage, the fact it was super easy, the massive number of pixels in a modern phone image to be stored, and on it goes. I would be surprised if most academics understood the cost of simple search in Twitter. It is very expensive to operate Twitter. When users "agree" to the ToS, they get many advantages, incredibly rich information, a sweet interface, some other specific technological affordances, but no ownership of the data they create beyond the right the delete or personally export the content. Among the TOPICS banned for research by Twitter: IDENTITY. I don't make the point to say we should all bow down before the corporate overlord and stop using Twitter data for research. Quite the opposite, however, because Twitter is an amazing resource. I do think that many academics have a libertarian (at times indefensibly self righteous) viewpoint about the storage, display, and use of Twitter data (especially deleted Tweets) that contributes to the conflict with social data platforms. For sure it was and remains a learning curve for everyone, especially with shifting goalposts moving closer together over time. I want to encourage continued debate as we are only in the birth stages of the ecosystem; the wild west of Internet in history. I have spent years encouraging Facebook & Twitter to let academic teams help them solve critical problems in politics, policy, and beyond. Similarly every week I explain to academics on web meetings why these rules exist and how we try to engineer compliance methods that IRBs can approve. For the most part, the response from Twitter and other platforms is, "we have this covered," and "if an academic was really smart they would be HIRED to work inside the platform." Again, I am not endorsing this viewpoint, far from it, I am just reporting it, but it has been expressed often enough directly to me that it must be a key part of platform management culture. To fundamentally change the playing field, it may come down to resistance versus cooperation with a partner who does not want to play. Just remember, this works both ways. Twitter views academia as stubbornly non-compliant. Academia views Twitter as an evil embodiment of capitalism that just happens to spit out interesting and well formatted data in units that are highly amenable to (too often) fully automated analysis. As Mark Z would say, it is complicated! It reminds me of this animated debate from 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQQ9r0aC34 Clearly now I have too much time on my hands since Twitter ended our relationship. Not bitter, just sobered. We were studying Digital Citizenship in 2002 with NSF funding when Twitter and Facebook were yet to be born. We have watched the arc of the API-enabled data flow rise and fall. We helped build a 501 c(6) "The Big Boulder Initiative" dedicated to the long term preservation of the social data ecosystem. There was a sustained effort to bring academia into the corporate mix. It eventually failed after Twitter acquired Gnip. Long story. The take away: Academic fingerprints are all over the good, bad, and ugly parts of this history. To just blame Twitter is an ahistorical or ideological act. The truth is much more complicated. If you have a spreadsheet with any potentially deleted Tweets on your hard drive or in the cloud, this is your part of the bigger dilemma and your obligation to fix if you agree with (or comply with) the right to be forgotten. PS: The good new is RSS feeds are free and abundant ;-) and full of valuable data as well. Stu Shulman <https://twitter.com/StuartWShulman>US Soccer C-Licensed Coach On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 6:00 AM Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Chris,
I never try to be clever, it's no longer fundable :) Seriously, maybe it came out a bit more flippant than intended - probably partially due to medium-specificity: I typed the original response on a smartphone, thus brevity. I was really just trying to give a contextual example of social media public-ness and subsequent gradient of use in various forms, using this thread as a handy example. Your follow up examples corroborate my initial intent. That being said, I *would* like to screenshot this thread for our MA students and discuss this with them. I would invite the thread to think me with about the ethics of such act, in relation to the original questions. I could email you all a consent form or do an "opt-out" comment (which might be truer to the spirit of the mailing-list-as-platform) or I can crop out the names of the respondents. These are choices that researchers have to engage with (especially in places, like ours, that lack ethics boards and clear procedures).
Alex.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 9:05 AM Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Alex Gekker,
I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative. However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about more.
For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article, I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the conversation.
I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place.
Chris
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The archives are public - I’d refer students to the discussion and let them do the work of sorting through and saving details of what they need? Important always to cite when using in research of course. On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:42 AM Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks for the interesting discussion. I just wanted to add that IMO one aspect worth considering is that not all screenshots are equal. A public joke comment on an open post is radically different from a telegram message between two users when it comes to reproduction.
Moreover, practical application: I now want to share this discussion with our gard students, who face similar dilemmas. Yet they are not in the mailing list. Should I be able to screenshot this thread? It doesn't seem ethical, even though all people commenting here understand the public nature of the forum. Then summarise the discussion instead? But then it loses the nuance of experience researchers bringing their own unique perspective...
Alex.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 07:35 Lena Molnar <lena.molnar@rmit.edu.au> wrote:
Hello everyone 😊
This has been a very rich discussion. I see a few answers here, so I believe that as always, it would absolutely depend on what the research questions exactly are. For my own research, it was more suitable to use text that is publicly accessible on Facebook (as an example, remove unnecessary identifiable info before analysis and distorting the text (changing a few words here and there) so that a reverse search doesn’t reidentify the contributors. This advice has been supported by peers, my supervisor and the following guidelines from the AOIR: https://aoir.org/reports/ethics2.pdf
As Charles Ess and Amy have mentioned below, it is possible (and I have read a few studies) where similar procedures can be applied to conversations where images are also involved. Of course other ethical considerations would depend on the source of the conversations and the images involved.
Lena
From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Amy Mowle Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2019 11:07 AM To: Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
I had a conversation regarding violating ToS for research purposes with my university’s ethics officer this morning and she made a good point - when users sign up to a social network, they do so assuming their data is protected by the ToS they personally agree too. Violating the ToS May equate to violating the contract of consent between the unknowing subjects of the study and the researcher.
It’s a tough one, but necessary to consider! One must tread carefully and think ethically if we are to avoid further restrictions on the collection and utilisation of publicly available data. I would err on the side of caution and not use screen grabs without first requesting the consent of the poster.
Amy
On 28 Feb 2019, at 5:24 am, Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk <mailto:S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk>> wrote:
Good advice. And I agree: let’s start with first question- why do you want to show these images and what would be lost if you didn’t? Best, S
On 27 Feb 2019, at 17:48, Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no <mailto: c.m.ess@media.uio.no>> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
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Hi all, some colleagues and I wrote a blog post on this topic that may be of interest: Ethical use of visual social media content in research publications <https://ahrecs.com/uncategorized/ethical-use-visual-social-media-content-research-publications> Oliver L. Haimson, Nazanin Andalibi, and Jessica Pater On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:47 PM Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
I'll be eager to hear what others think ... the problem with such images is that they are easily identifiable simply as images, no matter how careful you may have been to hide the identifying texts. And while some here will argue that since the images are (quasi-) publicly available - or are they? That is, are these drawn from open sites or sites that require a login? If the latter, is there any guidance from the Terms of Service as to the use of images?
(Probably forbids them - in which case you then get to enter the exciting world of considering violating a ToS for the sake of research ... This is its own domain of discussion, especially vis-a-vis Facebook and its recent change in the ToS. Our national ethics board will not give firm guidance either way - i.e., yes, it's o.k / no, it's not o.k.: one of our researchers is waiting to hear from the data security agency what they think of the matter ... Any updates on how this is faring in the U.S. or elsewhere - i.e., whether or not violating the ToS = violating the law?)
So a first question would be - why do you need to provide the images in your publication? If they are necessary in some form to illustrate your method - o.k., but then consider some additional options. One would be to ask for consent from the person(s) depicted in the image. Perhaps difficult to do and perhaps not likely to acquire, but it is an option some researchers would pursue. Alternatively, a common technique is to use software to modify the images so that they no longer provide enough data for recognition and identification, but still provide enough of an outline to suggest / illustrate the point(s). I can't give you specific recommendations, but I've seen examples of this any number of times at AoIR and other conferences, so perhaps some members of the list will have specific suggestions. Depending on what exactly you want to illustrate / demonstrate with the image will determine how far and in what ways you can blur out / modify it.
My 2 cents. Hope others will have additional wisdom, guidance, and experience to offer.
and good luck! - charles ess
On 27/02/2019 17:35, evelyne wanjiku via Air-L wrote:
Greetings members, I am conducting a research on dialogues around revenge pornography on social media platforms, fb, Twitter and telegram I am using a discourse analysis approach. As part of the analysis, i have picked out several dialogues and screen shot them. My question is would it be ok for me to publish screen shots from the various platforms? I have taken precaution to disguise/hide the names/identities of those commenting. Has anyone engaged in such? And what would be your advice with publishing screen shots?
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