Some might be interested on this one HGZ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- On behalf of the CITSA 2006 Organizing Committee, I would like to invite you to participate in the 3rd International Conference on Cybernetics and Information Technologies, Systems and Applications (http://www.info-cybernetics.org/citsa2006 ), which will take place in Orlando, Florida, USA, from July 20-23, 2006. The best 10%-20% of the papers will be published in Volume 4 of JSCI Journal (http://www.iiisci.org/Journal/SCI/Home.asp). 12 issues of the volumes 1 and 2 of the Journal have been sent to about 200 university and research libraries, and 6 issues of Volume 3 (2005) will be sent to a larger number of library. Promotional, free subscriptions, for 2 years, are being considered for the organizations of the Journal's authors. We are emphasizing the area of Applications of Cybernetics and Informatics in other Scientific and Engineering Disciplines which is related to your specific area. Also, we would like to invite you to organize an invited session related to a topic of your research interest. If you are interested in organizing an invited session, please, fill the respective form provided in the conference web page, and we will send you a password, so you can include and modify papers in your invited session. Organizers of the invited sessions with the best performance will be co-editors of the proceeding volume where their sessions' papers were included and of the CD electronic proceedings. They will also be candidate for invited editors, or co-editors of a possible JSCI Journal issue related to their invited session papers. You can find information about the suggested steps to organize an invited session in the Call for Participation and in the conference web page. If you need a detailed Call for Participation, don't hesitate in asking us for it. You can also get it the conference's web site. If the deadlines are tight and you need more time, let me know about a suitable time for you and I will inform you if it is feasible for us. Best regards, Professor José Aguilar CITSA 2006 General Chair
Am I wrong to think that the whole SciGen thing pretty much killed these off? Cf, http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Misc/FakeConferences I guess not! On 1/18/06, Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> wrote:
Some might be interested on this one HGZ
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On behalf of the CITSA 2006 Organizing Committee, I would like to invite you to participate in the 3rd International Conference on Cybernetics and Information Technologies, Systems and Applications (http://www.info-cybernetics.org/citsa2006 ), which will take place in Orlando, Florida, USA, from July 20-23, 2006.
The best 10%-20% of the papers will be published in Volume 4 of JSCI Journal (http://www.iiisci.org/Journal/SCI/Home.asp). 12 issues of the volumes 1 and 2 of the Journal have been sent to about 200 university and research libraries, and 6 issues of Volume 3 (2005) will be sent to a larger number of library. Promotional, free subscriptions, for 2 years, are being considered for the organizations of the Journal's authors.
We are emphasizing the area of Applications of Cybernetics and Informatics in other Scientific and Engineering Disciplines which is related to your specific area.
Also, we would like to invite you to organize an invited session related to a topic of your research interest. If you are interested in organizing an invited session, please, fill the respective form provided in the conference web page, and we will send you a password, so you can include and modify papers in your invited session.
Organizers of the invited sessions with the best performance will be co-editors of the proceeding volume where their sessions' papers were included and of the CD electronic proceedings. They will also be candidate for invited editors, or co-editors of a possible JSCI Journal issue related to their invited session papers.
You can find information about the suggested steps to organize an invited session in the Call for Participation and in the conference web page.
If you need a detailed Call for Participation, don't hesitate in asking us for it. You can also get it the conference's web site.
If the deadlines are tight and you need more time, let me know about a suitable time for you and I will inform you if it is feasible for us.
Best regards,
Professor José Aguilar CITSA 2006 General Chair
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Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-) -----Mensaje original----- De: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] En nombre de Alex Halavais Enviado el: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:43 PM Para: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Asunto: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006 Am I wrong to think that the whole SciGen thing pretty much killed these off? Cf, http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Misc/FakeConferences I guess not! On 1/18/06, Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> wrote:
Some might be interested on this one HGZ
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On behalf of the CITSA 2006 Organizing Committee, I would like to invite you to participate in the 3rd International Conference on Cybernetics and Information Technologies, Systems and Applications (http://www.info-cybernetics.org/citsa2006 ), which will take place in Orlando, Florida, USA, from July 20-23, 2006.
The best 10%-20% of the papers will be published in Volume 4 of JSCI Journal (http://www.iiisci.org/Journal/SCI/Home.asp). 12 issues of the volumes 1 and 2 of the Journal have been sent to about 200 university and research libraries, and 6 issues of Volume 3 (2005) will be sent to a larger number of library. Promotional, free subscriptions, for 2 years, are being considered for the organizations of the Journal's authors.
We are emphasizing the area of Applications of Cybernetics and Informatics in other Scientific and Engineering Disciplines which is related to your specific area.
Also, we would like to invite you to organize an invited session related to a topic of your research interest. If you are interested in organizing an invited session, please, fill the respective form provided in the conference web page, and we will send you a password, so you can include and modify papers in your invited session.
Organizers of the invited sessions with the best performance will be co-editors of the proceeding volume where their sessions' papers were included and of the CD electronic proceedings. They will also be candidate for invited editors, or co-editors of a possible JSCI Journal issue related to their invited session papers.
You can find information about the suggested steps to organize an invited session in the Call for Participation and in the conference web page.
If you need a detailed Call for Participation, don't hesitate in asking us for it. You can also get it the conference's web site.
If the deadlines are tight and you need more time, let me know about a suitable time for you and I will inform you if it is feasible for us.
Best regards,
Professor José Aguilar CITSA 2006 General Chair
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Perhaps they will - that would be useful. Someone needs to educate their editorial board on ways to appear to be something other than a "phony conference". Everything about the rhetoric of the message indicates that such is the case. On the other hand, if it is a fraudulent piece of what i call "conference spam", I don't want them to know how to do any better. --elijah On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:50:37 -0600 From: Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Cc: scijournallc@iiis.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006
Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ
Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-)
-----Mensaje original----- De: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] En nombre de Alex Halavais Enviado el: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:43 PM Para: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Asunto: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006
Am I wrong to think that the whole SciGen thing pretty much killed these off? Cf, http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Misc/FakeConferences
I guess not!
On 1/18/06, Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> wrote:
Some might be interested on this one HGZ
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On behalf of the CITSA 2006 Organizing Committee, I would like to invite you to participate in the 3rd International Conference on Cybernetics and Information Technologies, Systems and Applications (http://www.info-cybernetics.org/citsa2006 ), which will take place in Orlando, Florida, USA, from July 20-23, 2006.
The best 10%-20% of the papers will be published in Volume 4 of JSCI Journal (http://www.iiisci.org/Journal/SCI/Home.asp). 12 issues of the volumes 1 and 2 of the Journal have been sent to about 200 university and research libraries, and 6 issues of Volume 3 (2005) will be sent to a larger number of library. Promotional, free subscriptions, for 2 years, are being considered for the organizations of the Journal's authors.
We are emphasizing the area of Applications of Cybernetics and Informatics in other Scientific and Engineering Disciplines which is related to your specific area.
Also, we would like to invite you to organize an invited session related to a topic of your research interest. If you are interested in organizing an invited session, please, fill the respective form provided in the conference web page, and we will send you a password, so you can include and modify papers in your invited session.
Organizers of the invited sessions with the best performance will be co-editors of the proceeding volume where their sessions' papers were included and of the CD electronic proceedings. They will also be candidate for invited editors, or co-editors of a possible JSCI Journal issue related to their invited session papers.
You can find information about the suggested steps to organize an invited session in the Call for Participation and in the conference web page.
If you need a detailed Call for Participation, don't hesitate in asking us for it. You can also get it the conference's web site.
If the deadlines are tight and you need more time, let me know about a suitable time for you and I will inform you if it is feasible for us.
Best regards,
Professor José Aguilar CITSA 2006 General Chair
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Personally, If i were you, I'd resign from that journal's board before you end up on someone's blacklist like http://www.anti- plagiarism.org/ . The accusations about several of these conferences seem to be very real. They are for-profit machines. You submit a paper, you pay the registration, someone gets a percentage of that registration, and everyone is happy. They admittedly have little or no peer review, and they accept randomly generated papers. Let us take a moment to consider your journal. it is hosted by International Institute of Informatics and Cybernetics which does not seem to exist except to host your journal and several of the conferences listed on the list that Alex posted and the blacklist above. it is edited by the two people directly implicated in the conference which led to this scandal:http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/blog/ so then, what is the content of this journal? who sits on the editorial board? where have they published? where does this journal rank in isi? what do subject area librarians think of this journal? ask around and see, ask your advisor or dept. head about this journal, then tell them about the blacklist and the scandal, and see what they say. my advice would be to distance yourself from this enterprise. On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ
Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-)
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A note from a librarian... I searched OCLC (WorldCat), which is the central bibliographic database of catalog records for libraries and found no record for Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics. This is pretty significant, since this is the database that records the journal holdings of most libraries. In many instances, new journals have catalog records before the first issue is published yet there is no record for this journal, despite the fact that it has an ISSN. And speaking of ISSN, "Ulrichs," the largest directory of periodicals and journals, does not list this title or ISSN. This throws up red flags to any librarian evaluating a journal for selection which is why, I suspect, no one has bothered to catalog Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics or add it to their collection. -Brenda -- Brenda L. Battleson Head, Print Periodicals/Serials University at Buffalo Acquisitions Dept. 134 Lockwood Library Buffalo, NY 14260-2210 Ph. 716.645.2305 Fax 716.645.5955 --On Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:08 AM -0500 Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
Personally, If i were you, I'd resign from that journal's board before you end up on someone's blacklist like http://www.anti- plagiarism.org/ . The accusations about several of these conferences seem to be very real. They are for-profit machines. You submit a paper, you pay the registration, someone gets a percentage of that registration, and everyone is happy. They admittedly have little or no peer review, and they accept randomly generated papers. Let us take a moment to consider your journal.
it is hosted by International Institute of Informatics and Cybernetics which does not seem to exist except to host your journal and several of the conferences listed on the list that Alex posted and the blacklist above. it is edited by the two people directly implicated in the conference which led to this scandal:http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/blog/
so then, what is the content of this journal? who sits on the editorial board? where have they published? where does this journal rank in isi? what do subject area librarians think of this journal? ask around and see, ask your advisor or dept. head about this journal, then tell them about the blacklist and the scandal, and see what they say. my advice would be to distance yourself from this enterprise.
On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ
Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-)
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Brenda and all, I did the same, and since the entire issue started to seem pretty bizarre, I wanted to give them the opportunity to explain their position in this matter (apparently, there is an "Indian Institute of Technology" behind as well....) Jeremy, I do not entirely understand why you mention "Let us take a moment to consider your journal". It is not my journal, I'm not part of the editorial board and I have never published there. On the other hand it is true that I received the call for papers and circulated it to the list. Thus, in any case, I feel bad because I have contributed to circulate conference spam as Elijah named them. I still keep a slight hope that someone from the editorial board will explain their position. At this point everything indicates that they are not trustworthy. HGZ Homero Gil de Zuniga www.geocities.com/homerogil Project Assistant for the Journalism & Mass Communication Department www.journalism.wisc.edu UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON www.wisc.edu PO Box 260022 53726 Madison WI, USA e-mail: hgildezuniga@wisc.edu Office: (608) 263-7852 "It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice" -----Mensaje original----- De: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] En nombre de blb@buffalo.edu Enviado el: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:25 AM Para: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Asunto: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006 A note from a librarian... I searched OCLC (WorldCat), which is the central bibliographic database of catalog records for libraries and found no record for Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics. This is pretty significant, since this is the database that records the journal holdings of most libraries. In many instances, new journals have catalog records before the first issue is published yet there is no record for this journal, despite the fact that it has an ISSN. And speaking of ISSN, "Ulrichs," the largest directory of periodicals and journals, does not list this title or ISSN. This throws up red flags to any librarian evaluating a journal for selection which is why, I suspect, no one has bothered to catalog Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics or add it to their collection. -Brenda -- Brenda L. Battleson Head, Print Periodicals/Serials University at Buffalo Acquisitions Dept. 134 Lockwood Library Buffalo, NY 14260-2210 Ph. 716.645.2305 Fax 716.645.5955 --On Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:08 AM -0500 Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
Personally, If i were you, I'd resign from that journal's board before you end up on someone's blacklist like http://www.anti- plagiarism.org/ . The accusations about several of these conferences seem to be very real. They are for-profit machines. You submit a paper, you pay the registration, someone gets a percentage of that registration, and everyone is happy. They admittedly have little or no peer review, and they accept randomly generated papers. Let us take a moment to consider your journal.
it is hosted by International Institute of Informatics and Cybernetics which does not seem to exist except to host your journal and several of the conferences listed on the list that Alex posted and the blacklist above. it is edited by the two people directly implicated in the conference which led to this scandal:http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/blog/
so then, what is the content of this journal? who sits on the editorial board? where have they published? where does this journal rank in isi? what do subject area librarians think of this journal? ask around and see, ask your advisor or dept. head about this journal, then tell them about the blacklist and the scandal, and see what they say. my advice would be to distance yourself from this enterprise.
On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ
Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-)
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I apologize, I misunderstood, I thought you were asserting that from your position on the editorial board and were seeking a response from people here. I must have misread. I don't think that you should feel bad about this, it is an honest mistake, the conferences are meant to be broadly appealing and the journal does seem real enough, one of my colleagues at Virginia Tech published an article in it apparently. The key to preventing the circulation of this 'conference spam' is to just send out conference information about the conferences in which you have relationships with or are familiar with, that's a guideline that I tend to follow. I do want to thank our Librarian Colleague though On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Brenda and all, I did the same, and since the entire issue started to seem pretty bizarre, I wanted to give them the opportunity to explain their position in this matter (apparently, there is an "Indian Institute of Technology" behind as well....) Jeremy, I do not entirely understand why you mention "Let us take a moment to consider your journal". It is not my journal, I'm not part of the editorial board and I have never published there. On the other hand it is true that I received the call for papers and circulated it to the list. Thus, in any case, I feel bad because I have contributed to circulate conference spam as Elijah named them. I still keep a slight hope that someone from the editorial board will explain their position. At this point everything indicates that they are not trustworthy. HGZ
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Homero and all, It is good that issues like these come up every now and then since they will then stay on people's radar. At the same time the whole discussion has made "com and internet research newbies" like myself aware of the existence of such bogus "conferences" and so-called "journals." Since the journal component also relates to the work I do in libraries, I have since passed the information provided by Alex and Jeremy on to academic library lists. Your post resulted in EXACTLY what these discussion lists are supposed to generate. Best, Brenda --On Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:07 AM -0600 Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> wrote:
Brenda and all, I did the same, and since the entire issue started to seem pretty bizarre, I wanted to give them the opportunity to explain their position in this matter (apparently, there is an "Indian Institute of Technology" behind as well....) Jeremy, I do not entirely understand why you mention "Let us take a moment to consider your journal". It is not my journal, I'm not part of the editorial board and I have never published there. On the other hand it is true that I received the call for papers and circulated it to the list. Thus, in any case, I feel bad because I have contributed to circulate conference spam as Elijah named them. I still keep a slight hope that someone from the editorial board will explain their position. At this point everything indicates that they are not trustworthy. HGZ
Homero Gil de Zuniga
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Office: (608) 263-7852
"It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice" -----Mensaje original----- De: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] En nombre de blb@buffalo.edu Enviado el: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:25 AM Para: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Asunto: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006
A note from a librarian...
I searched OCLC (WorldCat), which is the central bibliographic database of catalog records for libraries and found no record for Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics. This is pretty significant, since this is the database that records the journal holdings of most libraries. In many instances, new journals have catalog records before the first issue is published yet there is no record for this journal, despite the fact that it has an ISSN.
And speaking of ISSN, "Ulrichs," the largest directory of periodicals and journals, does not list this title or ISSN.
This throws up red flags to any librarian evaluating a journal for selection which is why, I suspect, no one has bothered to catalog Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics or add it to their collection.
-Brenda
-- Brenda L. Battleson Head, Print Periodicals/Serials University at Buffalo Acquisitions Dept. 134 Lockwood Library Buffalo, NY 14260-2210 Ph. 716.645.2305 Fax 716.645.5955
--On Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:08 AM -0500 Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
Personally, If i were you, I'd resign from that journal's board before you end up on someone's blacklist like http://www.anti- plagiarism.org/ . The accusations about several of these conferences seem to be very real. They are for-profit machines. You submit a paper, you pay the registration, someone gets a percentage of that registration, and everyone is happy. They admittedly have little or no peer review, and they accept randomly generated papers. Let us take a moment to consider your journal.
it is hosted by International Institute of Informatics and Cybernetics which does not seem to exist except to host your journal and several of the conferences listed on the list that Alex posted and the blacklist above. it is edited by the two people directly implicated in the conference which led to this scandal:http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/blog/
so then, what is the content of this journal? who sits on the editorial board? where have they published? where does this journal rank in isi? what do subject area librarians think of this journal? ask around and see, ask your advisor or dept. head about this journal, then tell them about the blacklist and the scandal, and see what they say. my advice would be to distance yourself from this enterprise.
On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ
Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-)
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Indeed, I have to echo these sentiments. I was a bit naïve about fake conferences. The fact checking happened very efficiently and clearly with a lot of civility. I've sent a warning/notice about this sort of thing to my fellow graduate students at our department, who might have also been taken in by this or another conference. Thanks again everyone, BERNiE Bernie Hogan PhD Student NetLab, Knowledge Media Design Institute Department of Sociology University of Toronto I received a message from blb@buffalo.edu at approximately 1/19/06 11:37 AM. Above is my reply.
Homero and all,
It is good that issues like these come up every now and then since they will then stay on people's radar. At the same time the whole discussion has made "com and internet research newbies" like myself aware of the existence of such bogus "conferences" and so-called "journals." Since the journal component also relates to the work I do in libraries, I have since passed the information provided by Alex and Jeremy on to academic library lists.
Your post resulted in EXACTLY what these discussion lists are supposed to generate.
Best, Brenda
--On Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:07 AM -0600 Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> wrote:
Brenda and all, I did the same, and since the entire issue started to seem pretty bizarre, I wanted to give them the opportunity to explain their position in this matter (apparently, there is an "Indian Institute of Technology" behind as well....) Jeremy, I do not entirely understand why you mention "Let us take a moment to consider your journal". It is not my journal, I'm not part of the editorial board and I have never published there. On the other hand it is true that I received the call for papers and circulated it to the list. Thus, in any case, I feel bad because I have contributed to circulate conference spam as Elijah named them. I still keep a slight hope that someone from the editorial board will explain their position. At this point everything indicates that they are not trustworthy. HGZ
Homero Gil de Zuniga
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"It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice" -----Mensaje original----- De: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] En nombre de blb@buffalo.edu Enviado el: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:25 AM Para: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Asunto: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006
A note from a librarian...
I searched OCLC (WorldCat), which is the central bibliographic database of catalog records for libraries and found no record for Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics. This is pretty significant, since this is the database that records the journal holdings of most libraries. In many instances, new journals have catalog records before the first issue is published yet there is no record for this journal, despite the fact that it has an ISSN.
And speaking of ISSN, "Ulrichs," the largest directory of periodicals and journals, does not list this title or ISSN.
This throws up red flags to any librarian evaluating a journal for selection which is why, I suspect, no one has bothered to catalog Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics or add it to their collection.
-Brenda
-- Brenda L. Battleson Head, Print Periodicals/Serials University at Buffalo Acquisitions Dept. 134 Lockwood Library Buffalo, NY 14260-2210 Ph. 716.645.2305 Fax 716.645.5955
--On Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:08 AM -0500 Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
Personally, If i were you, I'd resign from that journal's board before you end up on someone's blacklist like http://www.anti- plagiarism.org/ . The accusations about several of these conferences seem to be very real. They are for-profit machines. You submit a paper, you pay the registration, someone gets a percentage of that registration, and everyone is happy. They admittedly have little or no peer review, and they accept randomly generated papers. Let us take a moment to consider your journal.
it is hosted by International Institute of Informatics and Cybernetics which does not seem to exist except to host your journal and several of the conferences listed on the list that Alex posted and the blacklist above. it is edited by the two people directly implicated in the conference which led to this scandal:http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/blog/
so then, what is the content of this journal? who sits on the editorial board? where have they published? where does this journal rank in isi? what do subject area librarians think of this journal? ask around and see, ask your advisor or dept. head about this journal, then tell them about the blacklist and the scandal, and see what they say. my advice would be to distance yourself from this enterprise.
On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ
Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-)
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Alex Halavais -
Bernie Hogan -
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Jeremy Hunsinger