Indeed, I have to echo these sentiments. I was a bit naïve about fake conferences. The fact checking happened very efficiently and clearly with a lot of civility. I've sent a warning/notice about this sort of thing to my fellow graduate students at our department, who might have also been taken in by this or another conference. Thanks again everyone, BERNiE Bernie Hogan PhD Student NetLab, Knowledge Media Design Institute Department of Sociology University of Toronto I received a message from blb@buffalo.edu at approximately 1/19/06 11:37 AM. Above is my reply.
Homero and all,
It is good that issues like these come up every now and then since they will then stay on people's radar. At the same time the whole discussion has made "com and internet research newbies" like myself aware of the existence of such bogus "conferences" and so-called "journals." Since the journal component also relates to the work I do in libraries, I have since passed the information provided by Alex and Jeremy on to academic library lists.
Your post resulted in EXACTLY what these discussion lists are supposed to generate.
Best, Brenda
--On Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:07 AM -0600 Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> wrote:
Brenda and all, I did the same, and since the entire issue started to seem pretty bizarre, I wanted to give them the opportunity to explain their position in this matter (apparently, there is an "Indian Institute of Technology" behind as well....) Jeremy, I do not entirely understand why you mention "Let us take a moment to consider your journal". It is not my journal, I'm not part of the editorial board and I have never published there. On the other hand it is true that I received the call for papers and circulated it to the list. Thus, in any case, I feel bad because I have contributed to circulate conference spam as Elijah named them. I still keep a slight hope that someone from the editorial board will explain their position. At this point everything indicates that they are not trustworthy. HGZ
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"It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice" -----Mensaje original----- De: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] En nombre de blb@buffalo.edu Enviado el: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:25 AM Para: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Asunto: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006
A note from a librarian...
I searched OCLC (WorldCat), which is the central bibliographic database of catalog records for libraries and found no record for Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics. This is pretty significant, since this is the database that records the journal holdings of most libraries. In many instances, new journals have catalog records before the first issue is published yet there is no record for this journal, despite the fact that it has an ISSN.
And speaking of ISSN, "Ulrichs," the largest directory of periodicals and journals, does not list this title or ISSN.
This throws up red flags to any librarian evaluating a journal for selection which is why, I suspect, no one has bothered to catalog Journal of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics or add it to their collection.
-Brenda
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--On Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:08 AM -0500 Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
Personally, If i were you, I'd resign from that journal's board before you end up on someone's blacklist like http://www.anti- plagiarism.org/ . The accusations about several of these conferences seem to be very real. They are for-profit machines. You submit a paper, you pay the registration, someone gets a percentage of that registration, and everyone is happy. They admittedly have little or no peer review, and they accept randomly generated papers. Let us take a moment to consider your journal.
it is hosted by International Institute of Informatics and Cybernetics which does not seem to exist except to host your journal and several of the conferences listed on the list that Alex posted and the blacklist above. it is edited by the two people directly implicated in the conference which led to this scandal:http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/blog/
so then, what is the content of this journal? who sits on the editorial board? where have they published? where does this journal rank in isi? what do subject area librarians think of this journal? ask around and see, ask your advisor or dept. head about this journal, then tell them about the blacklist and the scandal, and see what they say. my advice would be to distance yourself from this enterprise.
On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to reply to the AoIR list about this accusation... PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR list and the editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics with ISSN: 1690-4524 HGZ
Let's see if someone clarifies this!!! :-)
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