Re: [Air-l] CMC, ICT, digital communication
Dear Betty, Digital Diaspora(s) is a term I have used. Keep well Cheers, Derrick -----Original Message----- From: Betty Hanson <betty.hanson@uconn.edu> Subj: Re: [Air-l] CMC, ICT, digital communication Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:31 am Size: 2K To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org I am searching for a label for ethnic communities that are created by either the Internet or satellite television. Does anybody have any idea what encompassing term I could use here. Virtual ethnic communities would apply only to the Internet. Betty Hanson At 12:00 PM 7/24/2006, Mark Bell wrote:
Folks,
As far as I have been told, CMC is an outdated term. One professor told me it was archaic and vague - asking if we should also refer to "pen mediated communication". There certainly is a lot of research into how we communicate in the digital, multi-channel, immersive environment, so we should have a unifying term.
It sounds like we need a new term but I agree digital communication and ICT are far too broad. The work I am doing with Wikipedia is definitely stigmergic in nature (or at least I hope to prove it is) but that is very different from IM or email.
M
On 7/24/06, Martin Garthwaite <marting@gmail.com> wrote:
Jillana,
I would agree, if you look at a time line, I remember reading about CMC over 15 years ago, and I'll go out on a limb here and say that quite a lot of the research on CMC was done pre-mass adoption of Internet. So services like CompuServe, CIX and AOL that provided walled gardens that were not originally part of the Internet. CMC also referred to mailing lists like this one, e-mail, usenet groups, all these systems were pre-html technologies.
ICT appears to me to be a catch all term, and I find digital communication a little ambiguous.
Martin. m.k.garthwaite@lse.ac.uk MSc candidate media@lse
On 7/24/06, Jillana Enteen <jillana@jillana.net> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to sort out the differences in etymology and meaning between CMC, ICT and digital communication. I'm having a hard time-- other than recognizing the academic/educational basis for ICT and its roots in IT, it seems to me that these terms are used interchangeably.
Any thoughts?
best wishes, jillana Jillana Enteen jillana@jillana.net
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Hi Derrick: Many thanks. But does that encompass satellite TV as well? All the best, Betty At 01:58 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote:
Dear Betty,
Digital Diaspora(s) is a term I have used. Keep well
Cheers, Derrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Hanson <betty.hanson@uconn.edu> Subj: Re: [Air-l] CMC, ICT, digital communication Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:31 am Size: 2K To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org
I am searching for a label for ethnic communities that are created by either the Internet or satellite television. Does anybody have any idea what encompassing term I could use here. Virtual ethnic communities would apply only to the Internet. Betty Hanson
At 12:00 PM 7/24/2006, Mark Bell wrote:
Folks,
As far as I have been told, CMC is an outdated term. One professor told me it was archaic and vague - asking if we should also refer to "pen mediated communication". There certainly is a lot of research into how we communicate in the digital, multi-channel, immersive environment, so we should have a unifying term.
It sounds like we need a new term but I agree digital communication and ICT are far too broad. The work I am doing with Wikipedia is definitely stigmergic in nature (or at least I hope to prove it is) but that is very different from IM or email.
M
On 7/24/06, Martin Garthwaite <marting@gmail.com> wrote:
Jillana,
I would agree, if you look at a time line, I remember reading about CMC over 15 years ago, and I'll go out on a limb here and say that quite a lot of the research on CMC was done pre-mass adoption of Internet. So services like CompuServe, CIX and AOL that provided walled gardens that were not originally part of the Internet. CMC also referred to mailing lists like this one, e-mail, usenet groups, all these systems were pre-html technologies.
ICT appears to me to be a catch all term, and I find digital
communication
a little ambiguous.
Martin. m.k.garthwaite@lse.ac.uk MSc candidate media@lse
On 7/24/06, Jillana Enteen <jillana@jillana.net> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to sort out the differences in etymology and meaning between CMC, ICT and digital communication. I'm having a hard time-- other than recognizing the academic/educational basis for ICT and its roots in IT, it seems to me that these terms are used interchangeably.
Any thoughts?
best wishes, jillana Jillana Enteen jillana@jillana.net
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Derrick and Betty, You mean that the technology created the community ? Cheers, Frank dcogburn@syr.edu wrote:
Dear Betty,
Digital Diaspora(s) is a term I have used. Keep well
Cheers, Derrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Hanson <betty.hanson@uconn.edu> Subj: Re: [Air-l] CMC, ICT, digital communication Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:31 am Size: 2K To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org
I am searching for a label for ethnic communities that are created by either the Internet or satellite television. Does anybody have any idea what encompassing term I could use here. Virtual ethnic communities would apply only to the Internet. Betty Hanson
At 12:00 PM 7/24/2006, Mark Bell wrote:
Folks,
As far as I have been told, CMC is an outdated term. One professor told me it was archaic and vague - asking if we should also refer to "pen mediated communication". There certainly is a lot of research into how we communicate in the digital, multi-channel, immersive environment, so we should have a unifying term.
It sounds like we need a new term but I agree digital communication and ICT are far too broad. The work I am doing with Wikipedia is definitely stigmergic in nature (or at least I hope to prove it is) but that is very different from IM or email.
M
On 7/24/06, Martin Garthwaite <marting@gmail.com> wrote:
Jillana,
I would agree, if you look at a time line, I remember reading about CMC over 15 years ago, and I'll go out on a limb here and say that quite a lot of the research on CMC was done pre-mass adoption of Internet. So services like CompuServe, CIX and AOL that provided walled gardens that were not originally part of the Internet. CMC also referred to mailing lists like this one, e-mail, usenet groups, all these systems were pre-html technologies.
ICT appears to me to be a catch all term, and I find digital communication a little ambiguous.
Martin. m.k.garthwaite@lse.ac.uk MSc candidate media@lse
On 7/24/06, Jillana Enteen <jillana@jillana.net> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to sort out the differences in etymology and meaning between CMC, ICT and digital communication. I'm having a hard time-- other than recognizing the academic/educational basis for ICT and its roots in IT, it seems to me that these terms are used interchangeably.
Any thoughts?
best wishes, jillana Jillana Enteen jillana@jillana.net
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Well that is a question! At 03:52 PM 8/28/2006, you wrote:
Derrick and Betty, You mean that the technology created the community ?
Cheers, Frank
dcogburn@syr.edu wrote:
Dear Betty,
Digital Diaspora(s) is a term I have used. Keep well
Cheers, Derrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Hanson <betty.hanson@uconn.edu> Subj: Re: [Air-l] CMC, ICT, digital communication Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:31 am Size: 2K To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org
I am searching for a label for ethnic communities that are created by either the Internet or satellite television. Does anybody have any idea what encompassing term I could use here. Virtual ethnic communities would apply only to the Internet. Betty Hanson
At 12:00 PM 7/24/2006, Mark Bell wrote:
Folks,
As far as I have been told, CMC is an outdated term. One professor told me it was archaic and vague - asking if we should also refer to "pen mediated communication". There certainly is a lot of research into how we communicate in the digital, multi-channel, immersive environment, so we should have a unifying term.
It sounds like we need a new term but I agree digital communication and ICT are far too broad. The work I am doing with Wikipedia is definitely stigmergic in nature (or at least I hope to prove it is) but that is very different from IM or email.
M
On 7/24/06, Martin Garthwaite <marting@gmail.com> wrote:
Jillana,
I would agree, if you look at a time line, I remember reading about CMC over 15 years ago, and I'll go out on a limb here and say that quite a lot of the research on CMC was done pre-mass adoption of Internet. So services like CompuServe, CIX and AOL that provided walled gardens that were not originally part of the Internet. CMC also referred to mailing lists like this one, e-mail, usenet groups, all these systems were pre-html technologies.
ICT appears to me to be a catch all term, and I find digital communication a little ambiguous.
Martin. m.k.garthwaite@lse.ac.uk MSc candidate media@lse
On 7/24/06, Jillana Enteen <jillana@jillana.net> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to sort out the differences in etymology and meaning between CMC, ICT and digital communication. I'm having a hard time-- other than recognizing the academic/educational basis for ICT and its roots in IT, it seems to me that these terms are used interchangeably.
Any thoughts?
best wishes, jillana Jillana Enteen jillana@jillana.net
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I would be surprised if you said that technology behaves as an independent actor. All that is built into a technology and especially the usage rules are socially constructed. So, a technology might facilitate the creation of a social network, with interacting members and some feeling of belonging. But it can' create it. Technology -> Society (and the anxiety that it might wreak havoc with society) sounds quite American-centred for my European-trained sociological mind :-) Betty Hanson wrote:
Well that is a question!
At 03:52 PM 8/28/2006, you wrote:
Derrick and Betty, You mean that the technology created the community ?
Cheers, Frank
dcogburn@syr.edu wrote:
Dear Betty,
Digital Diaspora(s) is a term I have used. Keep well
Cheers, Derrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Hanson <betty.hanson@uconn.edu> Subj: Re: [Air-l] CMC, ICT, digital communication Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:31 am Size: 2K To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org
I am searching for a label for ethnic communities that are created by either the Internet or satellite television. Does anybody have any idea what encompassing term I could use here. Virtual ethnic communities would apply only to the Internet. Betty Hanson
At 12:00 PM 7/24/2006, Mark Bell wrote:
Folks,
As far as I have been told, CMC is an outdated term. One professor told me it was archaic and vague - asking if we should also refer to "pen mediated communication". There certainly is a lot of research into how we
communicate
in the digital, multi-channel, immersive environment, so we should have a unifying term.
It sounds like we need a new term but I agree digital communication
and ICT
are far too broad. The work I am doing with Wikipedia is definitely stigmergic in nature (or at least I hope to prove it is) but that is very different from IM or email.
M
On 7/24/06, Martin Garthwaite <marting@gmail.com> wrote:
Jillana,
I would agree, if you look at a time line, I remember reading about CMC over 15 years ago, and I'll go out on a limb here and say that quite a lot of the research on CMC was done pre-mass adoption of Internet. So services like CompuServe, CIX and AOL that provided walled gardens that were not originally part of the Internet. CMC also referred to mailing lists like this one, e-mail, usenet groups, all these systems were pre-html technologies.
ICT appears to me to be a catch all term, and I find digital
communication
a little ambiguous.
Martin. m.k.garthwaite@lse.ac.uk MSc candidate media@lse
On 7/24/06, Jillana Enteen <jillana@jillana.net> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to sort out the differences in etymology and meaning between CMC, ICT and digital communication. I'm having a hard time-- other than recognizing the academic/educational basis for ICT and its roots in IT, it seems to me that these terms are used interchangeably.
Any thoughts?
best wishes, jillana Jillana Enteen jillana@jillana.net
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Dear Betty,
I am searching for a label for ethnic communities that are created by
either the Internet or satellite television. Does anybody have any idea what encompassing term I could use here. Virtual ethnic communities would apply only to the Internet. Betty Hanson
Consider using the term 'transnational' that seems to cover your requirement for both Internet and satellite quite well. Best, Lokman
Frank, Have a look at Actor Network Theory, this might be a useful framework to investigate. Martin. On 8/29/06, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Betty,
I am searching for a label for ethnic communities that are created by
either the Internet or satellite television. Does anybody have any idea what encompassing term I could use here. Virtual ethnic communities would apply only to the Internet. Betty Hanson
Consider using the term 'transnational' that seems to cover your requirement for both Internet and satellite quite well.
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