Re: [Air-l] social network migration
Hello, I wonder if we would see a sort of a social network aggregator developed in the near future. A tool to integrate all our networks.. Today, we can aggregate all the news, blogs, etc. we need using an RSS reader. We can also aggregate all the content that we create on different platforms in one place - using jaiku.com, so that it is easier for others to follow everything we do online. Would that be possible to somehow integrate all our online social networks? Is there a need for it? M. On 6/20/07, elw@stderr.org <elw@stderr.org> wrote:
Now for the scholarly types, this community seems to be a bit more fragmented. I know many of these people who have accounts on myspace and even friendster, in addition to Facebook. I personally have an inactive friendster account that never ceases to amaze me when I get notices that someone actually was there. These are slowly dribbling off.
there are at least a few people from aoir that i've found on:
tribe friendster facebook myspace linkedin ryze orkut [a site i've forgotten the name of...]
and probably a significant number of other sites that i don't know about.
I have friends from several different demographics on each of them.
When folks try to compress a site into "teens go here" and "latinos mostly go here", they generally miss out on the fact that these sites are HUGE - so huge that there is a broad spectrum of behavior present on ALL of them. Surface-level characterizations are great, yes, but there's a lot of nuance in people's behaviors and networking patterns - that is easily missed.
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God yes! I need that! On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 17:47 +0200, Maciej Kos wrote:
Hello,
I wonder if we would see a sort of a social network aggregator developed in the near future. A tool to integrate all our networks..
Today, we can aggregate all the news, blogs, etc. we need using an RSS reader. We can also aggregate all the content that we create on different platforms in one place - using jaiku.com, so that it is easier for others to follow everything we do online.
Would that be possible to somehow integrate all our online social networks? Is there a need for it?
M.
On 6/20/07, elw@stderr.org <elw@stderr.org> wrote:
Now for the scholarly types, this community seems to be a bit more fragmented. I know many of these people who have accounts on myspace and even friendster, in addition to Facebook. I personally have an inactive friendster account that never ceases to amaze me when I get notices that someone actually was there. These are slowly dribbling off.
there are at least a few people from aoir that i've found on:
tribe friendster facebook myspace linkedin ryze orkut [a site i've forgotten the name of...]
and probably a significant number of other sites that i don't know about.
I have friends from several different demographics on each of them.
When folks try to compress a site into "teens go here" and "latinos mostly go here", they generally miss out on the fact that these sites are HUGE - so huge that there is a broad spectrum of behavior present on ALL of them. Surface-level characterizations are great, yes, but there's a lot of nuance in people's behaviors and networking patterns - that is easily missed.
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that's starting to happen already with jaiku and 30boxes On 01/07/2007, at 8:11 PM, gazz wrote:
God yes! I need that!
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 17:47 +0200, Maciej Kos wrote:
Hello,
I wonder if we would see a sort of a social network aggregator developed in the near future. A tool to integrate all our networks..
Today, we can aggregate all the news, blogs, etc. we need using an RSS reader. We can also aggregate all the content that we create on different platforms in one place - using jaiku.com, so that it is easier for others to follow everything we do online.
Would that be possible to somehow integrate all our online social networks? Is there a need for it?
M.
On 6/20/07, elw@stderr.org <elw@stderr.org> wrote:
Now for the scholarly types, this community seems to be a bit more fragmented. I know many of these people who have accounts on myspace and even friendster, in addition to Facebook. I personally have an inactive friendster account that never ceases to amaze me when I get notices that someone actually was there. These are slowly dribbling off.
there are at least a few people from aoir that i've found on:
tribe friendster facebook myspace linkedin ryze orkut [a site i've forgotten the name of...]
and probably a significant number of other sites that i don't know about.
I have friends from several different demographics on each of them.
When folks try to compress a site into "teens go here" and "latinos mostly go here", they generally miss out on the fact that these sites are HUGE - so huge that there is a broad spectrum of behavior present on ALL of them. Surface-level characterizations are great, yes, but there's a lot of nuance in people's behaviors and networking patterns - that is easily missed.
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That's what the whole FOAF movement is about. While i understand the motivations for those who are peripheral to the networks and login occasionally, by and large, most active users (and especially those under 25) transition to a new network when they are ready to move on. They want to take some people with them, but not all. There's a cleansing feel to it. That doesn't mean that it won't take off. Think about laptop upgrades. It always felt annoying to transfer everything and if you're an Apple person, you probably wanted to kiss the designer who allowed you to put the firewire cables together and suck everything off the old onto the new. And then you realized that you never got to do spring cleaning. But now it's too much of a pain to clean and everything's bogged down and feels slow for no good reason. You still are thankful for the easy transition but there's still something lost there... danah On Jul 1, 2007, at 5:17 AM, Kate Raynes-Goldie wrote:
that's starting to happen already with jaiku and 30boxes
On 01/07/2007, at 8:11 PM, gazz wrote:
God yes! I need that!
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 17:47 +0200, Maciej Kos wrote:
Hello,
I wonder if we would see a sort of a social network aggregator developed in the near future. A tool to integrate all our networks..
Today, we can aggregate all the news, blogs, etc. we need using an RSS reader. We can also aggregate all the content that we create on different platforms in one place - using jaiku.com, so that it is easier for others to follow everything we do online.
Would that be possible to somehow integrate all our online social networks? Is there a need for it?
M.
On 6/20/07, elw@stderr.org <elw@stderr.org> wrote:
Now for the scholarly types, this community seems to be a bit more fragmented. I know many of these people who have accounts on myspace and even friendster, in addition to Facebook. I personally have an inactive friendster account that never ceases to amaze me when I get notices that someone actually was there. These are slowly dribbling off.
there are at least a few people from aoir that i've found on:
tribe friendster facebook myspace linkedin ryze orkut [a site i've forgotten the name of...]
and probably a significant number of other sites that i don't know about.
I have friends from several different demographics on each of them.
When folks try to compress a site into "teens go here" and "latinos mostly go here", they generally miss out on the fact that these sites are HUGE - so huge that there is a broad spectrum of behavior present on ALL of them. Surface-level characterizations are great, yes, but there's a lot of nuance in people's behaviors and networking patterns - that is easily missed.
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To be fair, I think the concept of daisy-chaining was around long before Firewire. I remember it with SCSI interfaces, for example. And I further take issue with the notion that crowded, unkempt hard drives slow down a system. Depending on the filesystem used, it might not even fragment these days, and certainly a sluggish system is due more to too many system processes or too little RAM than to seek times on external hard drives... That said, killer draft you posted the other day. I can't believe how many people have found it through BBC and struck up conversations with me about it. danah boyd wrote:
That doesn't mean that it won't take off. Think about laptop upgrades. It always felt annoying to transfer everything and if you're an Apple person, you probably wanted to kiss the designer who allowed you to put the firewire cables together and suck everything off the old onto the new. And then you realized that you never got to do spring cleaning. But now it's too much of a pain to clean and everything's bogged down and feels slow for no good reason. You still are thankful for the easy transition but there's still something lost there...
danah
On Jul 1, 2007, at 5:17 AM, Kate Raynes-Goldie wrote:
that's starting to happen already with jaiku and 30boxes
On 01/07/2007, at 8:11 PM, gazz wrote:
God yes! I need that!
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 17:47 +0200, Maciej Kos wrote:
Hello,
I wonder if we would see a sort of a social network aggregator developed in the near future. A tool to integrate all our networks..
Today, we can aggregate all the news, blogs, etc. we need using an RSS reader. We can also aggregate all the content that we create on different platforms in one place - using jaiku.com, so that it is easier for others to follow everything we do online.
Would that be possible to somehow integrate all our online social networks? Is there a need for it?
M.
On 6/20/07, elw@stderr.org <elw@stderr.org> wrote:
Now for the scholarly types, this community seems to be a bit more fragmented. I know many of these people who have accounts on myspace and even friendster, in addition to Facebook. I personally have an inactive friendster account that never ceases to amaze me when I get notices that someone actually was there. These are slowly dribbling off.
there are at least a few people from aoir that i've found on:
tribe friendster facebook myspace linkedin ryze orkut [a site i've forgotten the name of...]
and probably a significant number of other sites that i don't know about.
I have friends from several different demographics on each of them.
When folks try to compress a site into "teens go here" and "latinos mostly go here", they generally miss out on the fact that these sites are HUGE - so huge that there is a broad spectrum of behavior present on ALL of them. Surface-level characterizations are great, yes, but there's a lot of nuance in people's behaviors and networking patterns - that is easily missed.
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To be fair, I think the concept of daisy-chaining was around long before Firewire. I remember it with SCSI interfaces, for example.
We used to do it with serial cables... and parallel-port-based "Laplink" cables (thank you Traveling Software...).
And I further take issue with the notion that crowded, unkempt hard drives slow down a system.
They do, but fragmentation is no longer usually the reason. Dozens or hundreds of abandoned, outdated, unused configuration files or registry entries often are.... --e
IMO, what would be best is standardization of data structures across social networks to enable portability of user data. I should be able to pick up all my data (and relationships?) from one social network and move to another. -mz ----- Michael Zimmer, PhD Microsoft Fellow, Information Society Project, Yale Law School e: michael.zimmer@nyu.edu w: http://michaelzimmer.org On Jul 1, 2007, at 8:11 AM, gazz wrote:
God yes! I need that!
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 17:47 +0200, Maciej Kos wrote:
Hello,
I wonder if we would see a sort of a social network aggregator developed in the near future. A tool to integrate all our networks..
Today, we can aggregate all the news, blogs, etc. we need using an RSS reader. We can also aggregate all the content that we create on different platforms in one place - using jaiku.com, so that it is easier for others to follow everything we do online.
Would that be possible to somehow integrate all our online social networks? Is there a need for it?
M.
On 6/20/07, elw@stderr.org <elw@stderr.org> wrote:
Now for the scholarly types, this community seems to be a bit more fragmented. I know many of these people who have accounts on myspace and even friendster, in addition to Facebook. I personally have an inactive friendster account that never ceases to amaze me when I get notices that someone actually was there. These are slowly dribbling off.
there are at least a few people from aoir that i've found on:
tribe friendster facebook myspace linkedin ryze orkut [a site i've forgotten the name of...]
and probably a significant number of other sites that i don't know about.
I have friends from several different demographics on each of them.
When folks try to compress a site into "teens go here" and "latinos mostly go here", they generally miss out on the fact that these sites are HUGE - so huge that there is a broad spectrum of behavior present on ALL of them. Surface-level characterizations are great, yes, but there's a lot of nuance in people's behaviors and networking patterns - that is easily missed.
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