I do not know whether www.bebo.com is a scam or not but it should be approached with caution. I have received two emails from impressionable acquaintances who have joined this project. When you log on to the website it asks you for innocuous details and then starts asking you for passwords such as yahoo passwords. Approach with caution!
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Hi Derek and all, Two quick things, the first one is related to your last email and secondly, I would like to rise a question for those of you who are interested in the P2P topic. 1. Unbelievable!! I just went through it as a curiosity making up my name and personal data and I reached the point that they require my "fictitious" email password for the email I gave them in order for them to inform me about my friends using Bebo from my email addresses: "Enter your Hotmail details below and we'll show you who's already using Bebo from your Hotmail Address Book" Sounds pretty suspicious to me... I tried to file the web site with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center but the page seemed to be down so... I'll try later. I hope it works... 2. Talking about different issue, the other day I came across to a surprising empirical research (http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_1/kretschmer). According to it, authors (musicians) in UK and Germany are in fact BENEFITED from illegal distributions since they become more famous and ultimately earn more money from distinct sources, such as concerts, gigs, etc.. It seems that P2P file transfer will never stop then... Any thoughts??? Cheers everybody, HGZ Homero Gil de Zuniga www.geocities.com/homerogil Journalism & Mass Communication Department www.journalism.wisc.edu UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON USA www.wisc.edu Office: (608) 263-7852 "It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice" -----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Derek McMillan Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:43 PM To: air-l-aoir.org@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Bebo warning I do not know whether www.bebo.com is a scam or not but it should be approached with caution. I have received two emails from impressionable acquaintances who have joined this project. When you log on to the website it asks you for innocuous details and then starts asking you for passwords such as yahoo passwords. Approach with caution!
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Homero, all, I am not surprised about No. 2 at all. It has been known (and used) as a share lever in the software industry for a long time. It goes like this: (1) Let them illegally copy and use the product (2) Let them build up familiarity and custom over time (3) Let them create documents, in fact, many documents (4) Upgrade the software a few times with growing interdependencies between the modules After some time, you will see legal copies purchased from those users, and the market share starts growing considerably since people have been successfully locked in, even without acquiring legal copies in the first place. This is, of course, only partially applicable to the various music scenes. Needless to say that the damage calculations presented by some software vendor attorneys are outrageous and hypocritical. There is a heck of a lot of benefit in those shadow copies and downloads for the original producers. Best, Jochen On 02/14/2005 3:18 PM, "Homero Gil de Zuniga" <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> wrote:
Hi Derek and all, Two quick things, the first one is related to your last email and secondly, I would like to rise a question for those of you who are interested in the P2P topic.
1. Unbelievable!! I just went through it as a curiosity making up my name and personal data and I reached the point that they require my "fictitious" email password for the email I gave them in order for them to inform me about my friends using Bebo from my email addresses: "Enter your Hotmail details below and we'll show you who's already using Bebo from your Hotmail Address Book"
Sounds pretty suspicious to me...
I tried to file the web site with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center but the page seemed to be down so... I'll try later. I hope it works...
2. Talking about different issue, the other day I came across to a surprising empirical research (http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_1/kretschmer). According to it, authors (musicians) in UK and Germany are in fact BENEFITED from illegal distributions since they become more famous and ultimately earn more money from distinct sources, such as concerts, gigs, etc.. It seems that P2P file transfer will never stop then... Any thoughts??? Cheers everybody, HGZ
Homero Gil de Zuniga
www.geocities.com/homerogil Journalism & Mass Communication Department www.journalism.wisc.edu UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON USA www.wisc.edu
Office: (608) 263-7852
"It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice"
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Derek McMillan Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:43 PM To: air-l-aoir.org@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Bebo warning
I do not know whether www.bebo.com is a scam or not but it should be approached with caution. I have received two emails from impressionable acquaintances who have joined this project. When you log on to the website it asks you for innocuous details and then starts asking you for passwords such as yahoo passwords. Approach with caution!
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seems likely that it is more likely just bad design (and poorly thought through) rather than a scam. "Bebo.com, LLC is based in San Francisco, California. Bebo.com, LLC 222 Sutter Street 5th Floor San Francisco CA 94108 USA" seems to me like someone (Danah?) in SF should go knock on their door and ask them if they know how ill-advised this kind of thing is (and why)... or at least verify whether they really exist or not. --elijah On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:18:37 -0500 From: Homero Gil de Zuniga <hgildezuniga@wisc.edu> Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org, derekmcmillan1951@yahoo.co.uk Subject: P2P will survive... and RE: [Air-l] Bebo warning
Hi Derek and all, Two quick things, the first one is related to your last email and secondly, I would like to rise a question for those of you who are interested in the P2P topic.
1. Unbelievable!! I just went through it as a curiosity making up my name and personal data and I reached the point that they require my "fictitious" email password for the email I gave them in order for them to inform me about my friends using Bebo from my email addresses: "Enter your Hotmail details below and we'll show you who's already using Bebo from your Hotmail Address Book"
Sounds pretty suspicious to me...
I tried to file the web site with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center but the page seemed to be down so... I'll try later. I hope it works...
2. Talking about different issue, the other day I came across to a surprising empirical research (http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_1/kretschmer). According to it, authors (musicians) in UK and Germany are in fact BENEFITED from illegal distributions since they become more famous and ultimately earn more money from distinct sources, such as concerts, gigs, etc.. It seems that P2P file transfer will never stop then... Any thoughts??? Cheers everybody, HGZ
Homero Gil de Zuniga
www.geocities.com/homerogil Journalism & Mass Communication Department www.journalism.wisc.edu UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON USA www.wisc.edu
Office: (608) 263-7852
"It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice"
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Derek McMillan Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:43 PM To: air-l-aoir.org@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Bebo warning
I do not know whether www.bebo.com is a scam or not but it should be approached with caution. I have received two emails from impressionable acquaintances who have joined this project. When you log on to the website it asks you for innocuous details and then starts asking you for passwords such as yahoo passwords. Approach with caution!
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elijah wright -
Homero Gil de Zuniga -
Jochen Scholl