Dear Colleagues, I'm trying to research the actual origin paper for the layers model. Was it Francois Barr or other scholar's contribution as a concept? Many thanks, B. Lentz (Visiting Scholar, NYU)
When you say layers do you mean the OSI 7 layer model? On 6/15/07, RGL <rgmagnolia@earthlink.net> wrote:
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Are you referring to a specific Francois Barr paper? Abbate has a good discussion in _Inventing the Internet_. And don't miss M. A. Padlipsky's _The Elements of Networking Style_. He has an entertaining take on the development of layering, and if you haven't read this book, you're in for a treat. For info on him and ordering the The Book (as he calls it), see http://www.lafn.org/~ba213/ mapstuff.html. Andy On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:45 AM, RGL wrote:
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Not sure whether you were referring to this, but Yochai Benkler also referenced a model of layers to explain the architecture of the internet. Different from the OSI layer model, he instead talks about a Physical, Logical and Content layer. See http://www.benkler.org/wealth_of_networks/index.php?title=11._The_Battle_Ove... Cheers, Lokman -- Doctoral Candidate Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania 3620 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.lokman.org - publications, vitae On 6/15/07, RGL <rgmagnolia@earthlink.net> wrote:
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I think the original post by B. Lentz is asking for the defining paper for the internet layers. The question is whether you want TCP/IP model, which is 5 layers and sometimes called the DoD model, or if you want the more recent OSI 7 layer model, or some other layer definition (don't more recent IETF developments alter/supersede the layer model?). As I understand it, the 5-layer TCP/IP model is defined in the early 1970's at ARPA. I think the "origin" may be the following text: Cerf, V., and R. Kahn, "A Protocol for Packet Network Intercommunication", IEEE Transactions on Communications, Vol. COM-22, No. 5, pp 637-648, May 1974. Certainly Vint Cerf was the co-author. I would start there. As to OSI, I would look here: http://www.comsoc.org/livepubs/50_journals/pdf/RightsManagement_eid=136833.p... - Sandy Baldwin
"Lokman Tsui" <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> 06/15/07 5:31 PM >>> Not sure whether you were referring to this, but Yochai Benkler also referenced a model of layers to explain the architecture of the internet. Different from the OSI layer model, he instead talks about a Physical, Logical and Content layer.
See http://www.benkler.org/wealth_of_networks/index.php?title=11._The_Battle_Ove... Cheers, Lokman -- Doctoral Candidate Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania 3620 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.lokman.org - publications, vitae On 6/15/07, RGL <rgmagnolia@earthlink.net> wrote:
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