Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu
All: The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier - Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and Other Academic Networks?" Available at: http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-elsevier-signaled-a-new-er... As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education (http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might...) are particularly astute.... Nick Jankowski
As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA. Deborah On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan <nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier - Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has- elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other- professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education (http://chronicle.com/blogs/ wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have- to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
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Hi Deborah, all That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship. cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA. Deborah On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan <nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier - Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has- elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other- professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education (http://chronicle.com/blogs/ wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have- to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
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Hi Mathieu The ARC at least (not sure about the NHMRC) now has a budget item where you can ask for funds to publish in open access journals (gold OA). But they also support green (free) OA initiatives (such as publishing postprints on university e-repositories) and this is seen as meeting their requirements for OA publication. The ARC website has details on their policy on this. I do think that the ARC hasn't fully thought through all the implications of mandating OA, however (what about books written from ARC funding, for example?), and agree that it should be looking into supporting green OA initiatives more proactively. Cheers Deborah On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au>wrote:
Hi Deborah, all
That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship.
cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu
As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA.
Deborah
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan <nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier - Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has- elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other- professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education (http://chronicle.com/blogs/ wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have- to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
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*From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor* *Faculty of Arts and Design, University of Canberra*
*New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012); *Fat*(Routledge, 2012); *Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013, Open Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology* (forthcoming, Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological Life'<http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and Tweet @DALupton. _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Forgive me if this point was already made, but in the UK the main concerns are about differences (inequalities) in access to funding (by career stage, gender, discipline, etc) now extending inequalities in the realm of publication. Sonia Livingstone -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Deborah Lupton Sent: 12 December 2013 19:26 To: Mathieu ONeil Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Hi Mathieu The ARC at least (not sure about the NHMRC) now has a budget item where you can ask for funds to publish in open access journals (gold OA). But they also support green (free) OA initiatives (such as publishing postprints on university e-repositories) and this is seen as meeting their requirements for OA publication. The ARC website has details on their policy on this. I do think that the ARC hasn't fully thought through all the implications of mandating OA, however (what about books written from ARC funding, for example?), and agree that it should be looking into supporting green OA initiatives more proactively. Cheers Deborah On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au>wrote:
Hi Deborah, all
That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship.
cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu
As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA.
Deborah
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan <nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier - Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has- elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other- professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education (http://chronicle.com/blogs/ wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have- to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
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*From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor* *Faculty of Arts and Design, University of Canberra*
*New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012); *Fat*(Routledge, 2012); *Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013, Open Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology* (forthcoming, Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological Life'<http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and Tweet @DALupton. _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Yes, Sonia, and this is definitely a problem. It is particular to the UK context because of the way the Finch report decreed how OA should proceed by making the distinction between green and gold and promoting the latter over the former. This is not the case in Australia at present. Deborah On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM, <S.Livingstone@lse.ac.uk> wrote:
Forgive me if this point was already made, but in the UK the main concerns are about differences (inequalities) in access to funding (by career stage, gender, discipline, etc) now extending inequalities in the realm of publication.
Sonia Livingstone
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Deborah Lupton Sent: 12 December 2013 19:26 To: Mathieu ONeil Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu
Hi Mathieu
The ARC at least (not sure about the NHMRC) now has a budget item where you can ask for funds to publish in open access journals (gold OA). But they also support green (free) OA initiatives (such as publishing postprints on university e-repositories) and this is seen as meeting their requirements for OA publication. The ARC website has details on their policy on this.
I do think that the ARC hasn't fully thought through all the implications of mandating OA, however (what about books written from ARC funding, for example?), and agree that it should be looking into supporting green OA initiatives more proactively.
Cheers
Deborah
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au
wrote:
Hi Deborah, all
That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship.
cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu
As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA.
Deborah
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan <nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier - Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has- elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other- professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education (http://chronicle.com/blogs/ wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have- to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
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*From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor* *Faculty of Arts and Design, University of Canberra*
*New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012); *Fat*(Routledge, 2012); *Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013, Open Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology* (forthcoming, Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological Life'<http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and Tweet @DALupton. _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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*From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor* *Faculty of Arts and Design, University of Canberra*
*New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012); *Fat*(Routledge, 2012); *Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013, Open Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology* (forthcoming, Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological Life'< http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and Tweet @DALupton. _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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-- Deborah Lupton Currently Senior Principal Research Fellow (Professor) Department of Sociology and Social Policy University of Sydney *From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor* *Faculty of Arts and Design, University of Canberra* *New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012); *Fat*(Routledge, 2012); *Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013, Open Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology* (forthcoming, Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological Life'<http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and Tweet @DALupton.
Just to say that funding for Open Access journals is a real issue. I'm the EiC of the double blind peer reviewed Journal of Community Informatics <http://ci-journal.net/> . We are now in our tenth year and have had roughly 1.1 million discrete article downloads <http://ci-journal.net/reports/> since 2006 (when the counter was restarted). We have looked at various business/funding models over the years but haven't come up with anything workable. The actual out-of-pocket expenses are fairly modest but when you start putting price tags on various of the elements of the publishing process (outside of those normally provided for free by academic contributors) such as editing, proof reading and layout the price tag rises quite steeply to the $40-50K per year range. A lot of journals that were started in the first flush of open access (and particularly open access supporting software such as OJS <http://pkp.sfu.ca/ojs/> on which we operate) are now approaching their founder/editor burnout period and on-going survival will very much depend on finding at least some degree of funding/some workable business model. M Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. Editor in Chief: Journal of Community Informatics web: <http://ci-journal.net> http://ci-journal.net email: gurstein@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu ONeil Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:15 AM To: Deborah Lupton Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Hi Deborah, all That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship. cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: <mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: < <mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA. Deborah On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan < <mailto:nickjan@xs4all.nl> nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly
Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier -
Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and
Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
<http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-> http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-
elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other-
professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article
in The Chronicle of Higher Education ( <http://chronicle.com/blogs/> http://chronicle.com/blogs/
wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have-
to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
Nick Jankowski
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Hi Michael I suppose the advantage of commercial publishers for funding bodies is that they constitute a legal and stable partner for entering into contractual exchange, as opposed to researcher-run peer reviewed journals like the ones you and I are involved in. This is why I think universities could perhaps act as an honest broker between funding bodies and "green" open access journals (to use the approved term) in order to channel support either in-kind (by employing proofreaders etc) or in cash...? cheers Mathieu ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of michael gurstein [gurstein@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:52 To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Just to say that funding for Open Access journals is a real issue. I'm the EiC of the double blind peer reviewed Journal of Community Informatics <http://ci-journal.net/> . We are now in our tenth year and have had roughly 1.1 million discrete article downloads <http://ci-journal.net/reports/> since 2006 (when the counter was restarted). We have looked at various business/funding models over the years but haven't come up with anything workable. The actual out-of-pocket expenses are fairly modest but when you start putting price tags on various of the elements of the publishing process (outside of those normally provided for free by academic contributors) such as editing, proof reading and layout the price tag rises quite steeply to the $40-50K per year range. A lot of journals that were started in the first flush of open access (and particularly open access supporting software such as OJS <http://pkp.sfu.ca/ojs/> on which we operate) are now approaching their founder/editor burnout period and on-going survival will very much depend on finding at least some degree of funding/some workable business model. M Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. Editor in Chief: Journal of Community Informatics web: <http://ci-journal.net> http://ci-journal.net email: gurstein@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu ONeil Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:15 AM To: Deborah Lupton Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Hi Deborah, all That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship. cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: <mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: < <mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA. Deborah On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan < <mailto:nickjan@xs4all.nl> nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly
Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier -
Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and
Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
<http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-> http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-
elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other-
professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article
in The Chronicle of Higher Education ( <http://chronicle.com/blogs/> http://chronicle.com/blogs/
wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have-
to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
Nick Jankowski
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-- Deborah Lupton Currently Senior Principal Research Fellow (Professor) Department of Sociology and Social Policy University of Sydney *From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor* *Faculty of Arts and Design, University of Canberra* *New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012); *Fat*(Routledge, 2012); *Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013, Open Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology* (forthcoming, Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological Life'< <http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and Tweet @DALupton. _______________________________________________ The <mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers <http://aoir.org> http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: <http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: <http://www.aoir.org/> http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The <mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers <http://aoir.org> http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: <http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: <http://www.aoir.org/> http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Yes, that could work although I see some difficulties with universities interposing themselves between the e-publisher and the funding bodies (bureaucracy, changes in editors and very diverse editorial board composition, different resource availability as between universities both within countries and particularly internationally, unies charging exorbitant overhead costs, that sort of thing). The option that I've been thinking about but haven't had a chance to even pilot is to have OA journals treated as with any "subscription" journal i.e. where a library would "subscribe" and pay a fee for the subscription -- the subscription list would, as now be drawn up by the existing processes but presumably by faculty members. Libraries could divert some of the funds that they would save through un-subbing from some of the existing outrageously priced journals and transfer that to the OA journal subscription fund. Of course, I can see a lot of practical difficulties with this approach but any journal, OA or otherwise, has to/should have an extended user base/fan club of faculty and student supporters (if not they are essentially vanity presses I would think) and these then become the lobby group to ensure that some of the library's subscription funds go to the various OA journals to ensure their continuity/survival. Comments? (BTW, I've run this by the JoCI Editorial Board and they like it and in some cases have approached their uni libraries with the proposal, only to be rebuffed on the basis that there are no available funds for this kind of thing. A concerted effort through, for example to/through one or another national research funding body could establish some useful precedents, (perhaps there are already some examples) and then who knows... M -----Original Message----- From: Mathieu ONeil [mailto:mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:03 AM To: michael gurstein; air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: RE: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Hi Michael I suppose the advantage of commercial publishers for funding bodies is that they constitute a legal and stable partner for entering into contractual exchange, as opposed to researcher-run peer reviewed journals like the ones you and I are involved in. This is why I think universities could perhaps act as an honest broker between funding bodies and "green" open access journals (to use the approved term) in order to channel support either in-kind (by employing proofreaders etc) or in cash...? cheers Mathieu ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of michael gurstein [gurstein@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:52 To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Just to say that funding for Open Access journals is a real issue. I'm the EiC of the double blind peer reviewed Journal of Community Informatics <http://ci-journal.net/> . We are now in our tenth year and have had roughly 1.1 million discrete article downloads <http://ci-journal.net/reports/> since 2006 (when the counter was restarted). We have looked at various business/funding models over the years but haven't come up with anything workable. The actual out-of-pocket expenses are fairly modest but when you start putting price tags on various of the elements of the publishing process (outside of those normally provided for free by academic contributors) such as editing, proof reading and layout the price tag rises quite steeply to the $40-50K per year range. A lot of journals that were started in the first flush of open access (and particularly open access supporting software such as OJS <http://pkp.sfu.ca/ojs/> on which we operate) are now approaching their founder/editor burnout period and on-going survival will very much depend on finding at least some degree of funding/some workable business model. M Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. Editor in Chief: Journal of Community Informatics web: <http://ci-journal.net> http://ci-journal.net email: gurstein@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu ONeil Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:15 AM To: Deborah Lupton Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Hi Deborah, all That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship. cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: <mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: < <mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA. Deborah On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan < <mailto:nickjan@xs4all.nl> nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly
Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier -
Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and
Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
<http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-> http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-
elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other-
professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article
in The Chronicle of Higher Education ( <http://chronicle.com/blogs/> http://chronicle.com/blogs/
wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have-
to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
Nick Jankowski
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I see this thread as having two themes: (1) open access publishing, (2) the role of the online social network academia.edu. On theme (2), as has been stated already, academia.edu is yet another walled garden. Yes the walls are easy to scale on the way in, but the problem is when you want to leave and you are faced with taking a hit on your academic visibility and having to re-establish your web presence somewhere else. Hotel California anyone? The other issue is that yes, online social networks (OSN) are expensive to run and users want improved features which cost money to develop, and so the company owning the OSN needs to monetise the data and hence we become the product. What can be done about this? There are P2P currencies (e.g. bitcoin) and file sharing (e.g. bittorrent) which enable useful services to be run in a completely decentralised manner so that the costs of running the service are distributed across many providers and no single provider can control the service. A search on "P2P 'online social network'" revealed several potential solutions. On the first page of results: - "My3: A highly-available P2P-based online social network" (Narendula, Papaioannou, and Aber) - http://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/167512/files/demo.pdf - "LifeSocial.KOM: A Secure and P2P-based Solution for Online Social Networks" (Graffi, Gross, Stingl, Hartung, Kovacevic, and Steinmetz) - Decentralized Online Social Networks - http://sands.sce.ntu.edu.sg/dOSN/ If anyone is interested in setting up a P2P OSN for academics, I'd be willing to contribute time and server resources. Perhaps there is already one out there I can join and contribute to? Of course the network effect means that the utility of joining an OSN is dependent on how many colleagues are already there, and so there are disincentives for being a first mover, once a provider has already gained significant market share (which academia.com has). Rob Assoc. Prof. Robert Ackland Deputy Director (Education) Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute Australian National University
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