Just to say that funding for Open Access journals is a real issue. I'm the EiC of the double blind peer reviewed Journal of Community Informatics <http://ci-journal.net/> . We are now in our tenth year and have had roughly 1.1 million discrete article downloads <http://ci-journal.net/reports/> since 2006 (when the counter was restarted). We have looked at various business/funding models over the years but haven't come up with anything workable. The actual out-of-pocket expenses are fairly modest but when you start putting price tags on various of the elements of the publishing process (outside of those normally provided for free by academic contributors) such as editing, proof reading and layout the price tag rises quite steeply to the $40-50K per year range. A lot of journals that were started in the first flush of open access (and particularly open access supporting software such as OJS <http://pkp.sfu.ca/ojs/> on which we operate) are now approaching their founder/editor burnout period and on-going survival will very much depend on finding at least some degree of funding/some workable business model. M Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. Editor in Chief: Journal of Community Informatics web: <http://ci-journal.net> http://ci-journal.net email: gurstein@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu ONeil Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:15 AM To: Deborah Lupton Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu Hi Deborah, all That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means? If the former (which is much easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial publisher relationship. cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: <mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton [deborah.lupton@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18 To: nickjan Cc: < <mailto:air-l@listserv.aoir.org> air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open access publishing of materials produced from research they fund, including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the culture in universities here concerning open access. My university held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA. Deborah On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan < <mailto:nickjan@xs4all.nl> nickjan@xs4all.nl> wrote:
All:
The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly
Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier -
Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and
Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
<http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-> http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-
elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other-
professional-networks/
As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article
in The Chronicle of Higher Education ( <http://chronicle.com/blogs/> http://chronicle.com/blogs/
wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have-
to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
Nick Jankowski
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