my editorial board is contemplating the issue and questions I've asked below. I expect that their input with help me make a consensus-based decision. However, since many of you folks publish in this arena, and all have interests and expertise here, I would benefit from hearing what you have to say on the matter. Thank you for considering my question. ************** One of the authors we're publishing is writing about a film. He used a large number of quotations and citations from web sites dedicated to film reviews . . . his citations don't follow APA exactly . . . instead of noting the most current location of the materials, he notes the url as of the date he retrieved the piece, and that date. The format is close enough that I can let the technical/stylistic issue slide. However, some of the materials are no longer available at the specified locations. I've asked him to go back and find alternatives; and told him that I will require a note that offers hard copy for interested readers who contact him. But let's assume for a moment that by the time I get the thing in print, 25% of his cited stuff isn't available. Should I publish the piece at all? Do we need to set specific editorial policy about web-based documentation? Your suggestions please. Edward Lee Lamoureux, Ph. D. Associate Professor, Speech Communication and Multimedia Editor, Journal of Communication and Religion Bradley University Peoria IL 61625 ell@bradley.edu http://hilltop.bradley.edu/~ell Fax: 309-677-3446
Ed Lamoureux wrote:
my editorial board is contemplating the issue and questions I've asked below. I expect that their input with help me make a consensus-based decision.
However, since many of you folks publish in this arena, and all have interests and expertise here, I would benefit from hearing what you have to say on the matter. Thank you for considering my question.
************** One of the authors we're publishing is writing about a film. He used a large number of quotations and citations from web sites dedicated to film reviews . . .
his citations don't follow APA exactly . . . instead of noting the most current location of the materials, he notes the url as of the date he retrieved the piece, and that date.
The format is close enough that I can let the technical/stylistic issue slide. However, some of the materials are no longer available at the specified locations. I've asked him to go back and find alternatives; and told him that I will require a note that offers hard copy for interested readers who contact him.
no this won't do, it would be a neverending circle. what should be done is to add a short preamble to the citations or somewhere that explains that internet based citations are ephemeral and that they might be found in the webarchive or a few other places, barring that, they might not exist anymore. These things in your work then become important traces for historical purposes, and you should still put them in as their original sources, and if you do find a second source, you could add a "see also @" but alternatives are not necessary.
But let's assume for a moment that by the time I get the thing in print, 25% of his cited stuff isn't available. Should I publish the piece at all?
yes, it serves many other purposes
Do we need to set specific editorial policy about web-based documentation?
other than matching the standards reasonably no, i don't think so, unless you want to require the preamble.
Your suggestions please.
Edward Lee Lamoureux, Ph. D. Associate Professor, Speech Communication and Multimedia Editor, Journal of Communication and Religion Bradley University Peoria IL 61625 ell@bradley.edu http://hilltop.bradley.edu/~ell Fax: 309-677-3446
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Friends, With disc and tape memory almost free, there is no excuse for not filing a reference copy -- just as we file hardcopy of journal articles. Authors that use online information should retain a copy of that information, preferably the entire page. If that was done, then the author could provide the information on request, or if known the URL that currently has the document. To really do the job right the author could maintain a web page with information redirecting the reader or providing a single click request for a filed copy of "disappeared" web pages (mailto:me@my.address?subject=http://disappearedURL). Regarding bibliographic style, it has always irritated me to include "Available Online." In the reader doesn't recognize a URL, then s/he can just go fish. Ed Lamoureux wrote:
my editorial board is contemplating the issue and questions I've asked below. I expect that their input with help me make a consensus-based decision.
... snip .. -- Charlie Hendricksen veritas@u.washington.edu "Information technology structures human relationships." "Models relate concepts."
With disc and tape memory almost free, there is no excuse for not filing a reference copy -- just as we file hardcopy of journal articles. Authors that use online information should retain a copy of that information, preferably the entire page. If that was done, then the author could provide the information on request, or if known the URL that currently has the document. To really do the job right the author could maintain a web page with information redirecting the reader or providing a single click request for a filed copy of "disappeared" web pages
I usually work on the principle that if i have cited something then it was a resource worth saving, and you can bet that if i don't save my citation it will be THE one that i will need or want in the future, ...mostly i keep print copies as well as disk copies (i find it easier to curl up on the sofa with the article, a pencil and a brandy than to do all my reading at my desk!) when i buy a new text one of the first things i do is to trawl the online citations...them being the easiest to access...and it is very disappointing when a promising url is dead......but i have had a fair amount of success in emailing ppl and asking them for hard copy......i seem to come across less dead links these days and thought perhaps that was due to more familiarity with the medium, because:- a] as ppl realise how annoying dead links are and b] as ppl more commonly have their own webpages they will try to improve matters, and information may become more static DENISE.M.CARTER DOCTORAL STUDENT CASS UNIVERSITY OF HULL EMAIL: d.m.carter@cas.hull.ac.uk OR: denisecarter@denisecarter.net Web Pages: http://www.denisecarter.net
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