Just to be clear here, I have not, nor will I likely ever have a private conversation/dealings with Dr. Cornwell, his center or his work. My work and the work of my colleagues on Transdisciplinary Studies and other endeavors stands as is, in the context of its production, its editing and related affiliations, editorial boards and advisory boards. I just wanted to state the 'null relationship' because some people may have inferred that there is some past argument or discussion in the private sphere and there has been none. The current discussion appears to have been started by my discussion with Ellis about whether or not we can describe non-atomistic, systemic, or ecological effects. I think that discussion was fruitful for me, though I could have spent more time on it and I apologize to the list for spawning this recent interchange. jeremy hunsinger Assistant Professor Pratt Institute www.cddc.vt.edu wiki.tmttlt.com www.tmttlt.com () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments http://www.stswiki.org/ sts wiki http://cfp.learning-inquiry.info/ Learning Inquiry-the journal http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/ Transdisciplinary Studies:the book series