Wikipedia's Technological Obscurification: Three ways Wikipedia keeps 99% of the population from participating
this is an interesting short critique of wikipedia, and to some extent most wikiwikiweb systems that some of you may be interested in. http://www.calacanis.com/2007/02/20/technological-obscurification- three-ways-wikipedia-keeps-99-of/ Jeremy Hunsinger () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments http://www.aoir.org The Association of Internet Researchers http://www.stswiki.org/ stswiki http://cfp.learning-inquiry.info/ LI-the journal http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/ Transdisciplinary Studies:the book series
Very interesting. Thanks so much for letting us know of this perspective on Wikipedia. It seems a bit like mashups which also are not really for the common human although they are of course very useful. Best, -- Bonnie Bonnie A. Nardi School of Information and Computer Sciences University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92697-3440 (949) 824-6534 www.artifex.org/~bonnie/ On Feb 21, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
this is an interesting short critique of wikipedia, and to some extent most wikiwikiweb systems that some of you may be interested in.
http://www.calacanis.com/2007/02/20/technological-obscurification- three-ways-wikipedia-keeps-99-of/ Jeremy Hunsinger () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments
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It is important to know that Jason Calacanis' views on Wikipedia are shockingly at odds with the truth in almost all cases. Bonnie Nardi wrote:
Very interesting. Thanks so much for letting us know of this perspective on Wikipedia. It seems a bit like mashups which also are not really for the common human although they are of course very useful.
Best,
--
Bonnie
Bonnie A. Nardi School of Information and Computer Sciences University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92697-3440 (949) 824-6534 www.artifex.org/~bonnie/
On Feb 21, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
this is an interesting short critique of wikipedia, and to some extent most wikiwikiweb systems that some of you may be interested in.
http://www.calacanis.com/2007/02/20/technological-obscurification- three-ways-wikipedia-keeps-99-of/ Jeremy Hunsinger () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments
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Jason's view is interesting, but I feel that an extreme view of the situation has been taken and open to critical debate; and to draw the conclusions that he does, certainly needs further research. My research interests are media literacy in a new media world, and in the context that Jason looks at i.e. the code / markup language that Wikipedia uses. I'm particularly interested in how people appropriate these literacy's and skills. To say that this code is a barrier to participation is partially true, but I would argue any language is a barrier to participation. Wikipedia is an open project and I'm sure that if there was the need to create an editor some enterprising individual or group would create something perhaps as a firefox plug in (as firefox is also extremely open). Is this a classic supply and demand question? Is there so little interest in such an editor that one has created one? Clearly the size of the wikipedia project is so large that using the code and mark up has not stopped a lot of people participating. Martin Garthwaite On 2/24/07, Jimmy Wales <jwales@wikia.com> wrote:
It is important to know that Jason Calacanis' views on Wikipedia are shockingly at odds with the truth in almost all cases.
Bonnie Nardi wrote:
Very interesting. Thanks so much for letting us know of this perspective on Wikipedia. It seems a bit like mashups which also are not really for the common human although they are of course very useful.
Best,
--
Bonnie
Bonnie A. Nardi School of Information and Computer Sciences University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92697-3440 (949) 824-6534 www.artifex.org/~bonnie/
On Feb 21, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
this is an interesting short critique of wikipedia, and to some extent most wikiwikiweb systems that some of you may be interested in.
http://www.calacanis.com/2007/02/20/technological-obscurification- three-ways-wikipedia-keeps-99-of/ Jeremy Hunsinger () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments
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