Colleagues, I have been following this thread with interest and I feel it's time to contribute. I think it's interesting if a standard evolved on how short links should be used within academic research. I recall a recent case for a conference where a colleague of mine included short links in his paper to see what the reviewers would say. Not surprisingly, the reviewers told him to include full links as references would not look reliable in the eyes of a reader. To me, this was not a strong argument. Plus, a previous writer said that we don't know how long sites such as bit.ly last or if they disappear over time. This as well is not a good argument because the same risk exist with every full link included in a paper. There is of course a difference between a paper that is completely based on bit.ly and a paper that only contain one bit.ly-link. The former will become less referenced over time as none of it's references work which won't allow researchers to verify the content. However, I'm for short link services and specifically one that is aimed at the academic community and financed by it. I want to bring to your attention that there is a software which allows anyone to create short links. It's called.. yes, you guessed it: Shorty. Website information here: http://get-shorty.com Live demo here: http://get-shorty.com/live In line with what Johann expressed, I would be happy to initiate together with others a service like this for researchers that would not just allow the creation of short links, but also collaboration of references. Kind regards, Montathar -- Montathar Faraon PhD Candidate Södertörn University School of Communication, Media and Information Technology Alfred Nobels allé 7 S-141 89 Huddinge Sweden Telephone: +46 (0)8 - 608 40 82 Fax: +46 (0)8 - 608 42 10 Mobile: +46 (0)73 - 566 97 27 Skype: kexxcream On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Johann Hoechtl < Johann.Hoechtl@donau-uni.ac.at> wrote:
Ironically, the link doesn't work for me - Time out.
Albeit the idea is appealing! I still think it's a good idea to work with short links for ease of readability and facilitate manual entry of web addresses in a browser. A corresponding short - to - longlist in the appendix of the paper should be enough for a wayback machine.
A short-url service specifically for acedemic research would also be a great starter for collaborative url collection, but I am digressing ...
Johann
Monica Barratt <tronica@gmail.com> schrieb am 26.07.2011 um 14:09 in Nachricht <CAF9Ekp1j_i6853QXnixKN3A6upFO1z63+caW0Sc24aZr0Q75Yg@mail.gmail.com>: Does anyone have an opinion on using webcitation as an archiving service? http://www.webcitation.org/faq
They seem to be made for this kind of work. I was considering using them in my thesis reference list and was thinking about including the short URL only, but can see now that maybe that's not the best idea. However, webcitation claim they won't 'disappear' down the track. I guess that's been said before!
Cheers Monica
On 26 July 2011 13:33, Denise N. Rall <denrall@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Johan -
At my uni, they move the papers into a digital repository called bpress. There are digital repositories on the market as well.
Each paper included contains the last draft the researcher submitted for publication which avoids copyright tangles (apparently). Other works included on the page are cleared for copyright by our library staff.
bpress generates its own statistics on how many times each reference (paper or thesis, etc.) has been accessed. So one always knows how many times the paper has been accessed. So do the administrators.
Cheers, Denise
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--- On Sat, 23/7/11, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011@reagle.org> wrote:
From: Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011@reagle.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Antw: Re: Inclusion of short links in academic publications? To: "Johann Hoechtl" <Johann.Hoechtl@donau-uni.ac.at> Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Received: Saturday, 23 July, 2011, 1:03 AM On Friday, July 22, 2011, Johann Hoechtl wrote:
If you are the one who created the shortlinks, it's likely that you have the ability to track how many times it was clicked (if you register at the shortening service)
OK, understood.
* If you happen to publish a paper in a (closed) journal you are able to interpolate a figure how often your submission was read (if there is a statistical figure how many paper readers actually follow references, footnotes or plain internet links). Did the reviewers took a deep look into your references? From that you can derive a, admittedly problematic, cost-value ratio of the journal.
Ah, I was thinking the primary thing I'd want to know was how many people read my paper but that's not something I'd have access to. But I can see your interpolation point though I'd be cognizant that (again) there are many services out there.
As to other reasons (usefulness of my sources, and countries and such), those haven't been too compelling to me, and I'll note that this might steal page rank link juice -- since references to things will now have multiples URLs. _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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