Bram, Interesting idea, but how do we solve the free rider problem? Despite some assertions on this list to the contrary, it takes Work to put papers online or on a CD. And in a dozen ways, it is a PITA: different formats, authors want to do edits, etc. Even if everyone is well-behaved, it is still Work, and even if it is done by volunteers, it still costs money to do. Someone has to do it, and someone has to pay for it. I have been astonished at the contentions of some list posters that they have a Right to these papers even though they haven't paid their club membership -- joining AoIR. AoIR's dues are now extremely low compared to other professional societies, and even lower for students and those in non-OECD countries. As Steve Jones noted at the recent Maastricht general meeting, just to keep the existing level of activity going, they may have to be raised. To add on to the Work and the expense without contributing dues to the clube -- $25 for students -- seems to be unwarrented, and indeed a bit like asking to get something for nothing. That's my .02, Barry ___________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman@chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 ___________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 air-l-request@aoir.org wrote:
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1. Re: Conference papers online (Bram Dov Abramson)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:34:39 -0500 To: air-l@aoir.org From: Bram Dov Abramson <bda@bazu.org> Subject: [Air-l] Re: Conference papers online Reply-To: air-l@aoir.org
zaphiri@soi.city.ac.uk:
I understand that it might not be possible to put this years' proceedings online for free (for whatever copyright etc complications).. but i think it is an issue to consider and make mandotary in the future ?
jhuns@vt.edu:
but free and open distribution must be the decision of the individual not an obligation put on them because they participate in an organization or attend a conference.
I don't think this is an overly difficult problem to solve. For the AoIR Toronto conference, could the registration form include a checkbox? It could look something like this:
Following the conference, please make my paper available to:
_ any visitor to the conference Web site
_ any registered AoIR member visiting the conference Web site
_ noone
cheers Bram
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