Did you really just mean to suggest that previous generations understood the larger social world and made wise decisions that reflected that understanding? I would think philosophers would have always agreed and been right, were that the case. -Alexis + -------- redheadedstepchild.org ------- + On Thu, 15 May 2008, Mark Chen wrote: ::Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:34 -0700 ::From: Mark Chen <markchen@u.washington.edu> ::Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org ::To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org ::Subject: Re: [Air-L] Dumbest Generation? :: ::I haven't read the book, but a counter point could be Stephen Johnson's ::Everything Bad Is Good For You where he argues new media is making us ::smarter by training us to see patterns from fragmented information. :: ::The issue I had on Johnson's book was that, sure maybe we're getting ::smarter, but we sure aren't getting wiser. We can grok systems in some ::settings but somehow aren't able to grok the bigger social world and make ::decisions that reflect our understanding. Maybe this new book is actually ::talking about being foolish, not dumb? :: ::mark :: ::On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Steve Jones <sjones@uic.edu> wrote: :: ::> Thank goodness. I wouldn't want any future generation to usurp my ::> generation's claim to being dumbest. ::> ::> Hang on...since it's probably those of my generation who are writing and ::> scoring those IQ tests.... ::> ::> Sj ::> ::> ::> On May 15, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Aram Sinnreich wrote: ::> ::> yet somehow american IQ scores continue to climb... ::>> ::>> a ::>> ::>> Casey O'Donnell wrote: ::>> ::>>> Huh... I thought it was Nintendo and videogames that did that... ;) ::>>> ::>>> Sheff, David. 1993. Game Over: How Nintendo Zapped an American ::>>> Industry, Captured Your Dollars, and Enslaved Your Children. New York, ::>>> NY: Random House Inc. ::>>> ::>>> Best. ::>>> Casey ::>>> ::>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Katy E. Pearce <kpearce@umail.ucsb.edu> ::>>> wrote: ::>>> ::>>> Mark Bauerlein's new book, The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age ::>>>> Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future and its critics... ::>>>> great debate on Metafilter, with links to MSM stories/review on the ::>>>> book: ::>>>> http://www.metafilter.com/71648/Now-Get-Off-of-My-Lawn ::>>>> ::>>>> ::>>>> ::>>> ::>>> _______________________________________________ ::>> The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list ::>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org ::>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: ::>> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org ::>> ::>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers: ::>> http://www.aoir.org/ ::>> ::> ::> _______________________________________________ ::> The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list ::> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org ::> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: ::> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org ::> ::> Join the Association of Internet Researchers: ::> http://www.aoir.org/ ::> :: :: :: ::-- ::Mark Chen | PhD Candidate | Games researcher/designer | Tech instructor ::College of Education - Ed Tech | University of Washington - Seattle ::My games research and life in academia blog: markdangerchen.net ::_______________________________________________ ::The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list ::is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org ::Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org :: ::Join the Association of Internet Researchers: ::http://www.aoir.org/ ::