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Hi All, Can anyone recommend some top of the line research on MySpace and Facebook? I'm looking for thoughtful academic work rather than journalists' accounts. Thanks very much. -- Bonnie Bonnie A. Nardi School of Information and Computer Sciences University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92697-3425 (949) 824-6534 www.artifex.org/~bonnie/
Can anyone recommend some top of the line research on MySpace and Facebook? I'm looking for thoughtful academic work rather than journalists' accounts.
Bonnie - danah boyd recently compiled this list of all the published work she could find on her blog (http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/08/19/research_on_soc.html) I'd appreciate hearing any recommendations of articles not listed. * Acquisti, Alessandro and Ralph Gross. 2006. "Imagined Communities: Awareness, Information Sharing, and Privacy on the Facebook." Privacy Enhancing Technologies. Cambridge: June 28-30. * Adamic, Lada, Orkut Buyukkokten, and Eytan Adar. 2003. "A social network caught in the Web." First Monday. * Barnes, Susan. 2006. A privacy paradox: Social networking in the United States. First Monday. * boyd, danah. 2007. "None of this is Real." Structures of Participation (ed. Joe Karaganis). Duke University Press. * boyd, danah. 2006. "Identity Production in a Networked Culture: Why Youth Heart MySpace." Talk as AAAS 2006 (part of panel: "It's 10PM: Do You Know Where Your Children Are ... Online!"). St. Louis, Missouri: February 19. * boyd, danah and Jeffrey Heer. 2006. "Profiles as Conversation: Networked Identity Performance on Friendster." Proceedings of the Hawai'i International Conference on System Sciences (HICSS-39) , Persistent Conversation Track. Kauai, HI: IEEE Computer Society. January 4 - 7. * boyd, danah. 2004. "Friendster and Publicly Articulated Social Networks." Conference on Human Factors and Computing Systems (CHI 2004). Vienna: ACM, April 24-29. * Donath, Judith and danah boyd. 2004. "Public displays of connection." BT Technology Journal Vol 22, No 4. October, pp 71-82. * Ellison, Nicole, Charles Steinfield, and Cliff Lampe. 2006. "Spatially Bounded Online Social Networks and Social Capital: The Role of Facebook." Paper presented at the annual meeting of the International Communication Association, Dresden, June 19-23. * Gajjala, Radhika. (in-progress) "Production of Raced and Classed Selves as (Stereotypical) Interface: Social Networks at the Intersection of Online/Offline, Global/Local." Cultural Studies Reader - edited by Michael Ryan. * Geidner, Nicholas, Christopher Flook and Mark Bell. (in review) "Male Self-Identification on Facebook.com." Communication Quarterly. * Gross, Ralph and Alessandro Acquisti. 2005. "Information Reveleation and Privacy in Online Social Networks." ACM WPES Workshop. * Heer, Jeffrey and danah boyd. 2005. "Vizster: Visualizing Online Social Networks." IEEE Symposium on Information Visualization (InfoVis 2005). Minneapolis, Minnesota, October 23-25. * Hewitt, Anne and Andrea Forte. 2006. "Crossing Boundaries: Identity Management and Student/Faculty Relationships on the Facebook." Poster/Extended Abstract, CSCW 2006. * Liu, Hugo, Pattie Maes, Glorianna Davenport. 2006. "Unraveling the taste fabric of social networks." International Journal on Semantic Web and Information Systems 2(1), 42-71, Hershey, PA: Idea Academic Publishers. * Marwick, Alice. 2005. "'I'm a Lot More Interesting than a Friendster Profile': Identity Presentation, Authenticity and Power in Social Networking Services." Association of Online Internet Researchers. Chicago. * Perkel, Dan. 2006. "Copy and Paste Literacy: Literacy Practices in the Production of a MySpace Profile." Informal Learning and Digital Media. Odense Denmark: September 21-23. * Recuero, Raquel. 2005. "Um estudo do capital social gerado a partir das Redes Sociais no Orkut e nos Weblogs." Trabalho apresentado no GT de Tecnologias da Comunicacao e da Informacao da COMPOS 2005, em Niteroi/RJ. (in Portuguese) * Spertus, Ellen, Mehran Sahami and Orkut Buyukkokten. 2005. "Evaluating similarity measures: a large-scale study in the orkut social network." Conference on Knowledge Discovery in Data. * Stutzman, Frederic. 2006. "An Evaluation of Identity-Sharing Behavior in Social Network Communities." iDMa Journal.
Dr. Nardi, This is what I have on Facebook. For myspace I would consult danah boyd (she is very hard to get a hold of her) or someone from her list (link below). There is also an edition of JCMC that will be dealing with social networks and facebook and MySpace will be mentioned. I am preparing a submission for this now that studies homophily in Facebook groups. Facebook: Stutzman, Frederic (2006).An Evaluation of Identity-Sharing Behavior in Social Network Communities. iDMa Journal (In press). Burkart, Jenae Dissertation "College Social Networking; A Virtual Ethnography of Facebook.com" Stutzman, F. (2006) Our Lives, Our Facebooks. Presentation to the 2006 International Sunbelt Social Network Conference, Vancouver, BC. (http://www.ibiblio.org/fred/pubs/stutzman_pub6.pdf) Stutzman, F. (2006) Student Life on the Facebook. Originally a weblog posting - non-traditional academic work. Document (12p, pdf). http://www.msu.edu/~nellison/ This is more general stuff. General Social Software Research: http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/08/19/research_on_soc.html - you should be reading danah's blog if you are into this. http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/10/announcing-unc-social-software.html M
Hi Mark, Thanks a lot! This is very helpful. Can you please send me a copy of your paper when you have it? In World of Warcraft rather than homophily, there is a diversity of people playing together who have only the game in common. It might be an interesting contrast. Thanks again. -- Bonnie On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Mark Bell wrote:
Dr. Nardi,
This is what I have on Facebook. For myspace I would consult danah boyd (she is very hard to get a hold of her) or someone from her list (link below).
There is also an edition of JCMC that will be dealing with social networks and facebook and MySpace will be mentioned. I am preparing a submission for this now that studies homophily in Facebook groups.
Facebook:
Stutzman, Frederic (2006).An Evaluation of Identity-Sharing Behavior in Social Network Communities. iDMa Journal (In press). Burkart, Jenae Dissertation "College Social Networking; A Virtual Ethnography of Facebook.com" Stutzman, F. (2006) Our Lives, Our Facebooks. Presentation to the 2006 International Sunbelt Social Network Conference, Vancouver, BC. (http://www.ibiblio.org/fred/pubs/stutzman_pub6.pdf) Stutzman, F. (2006) Student Life on the Facebook. Originally a weblog posting - non-traditional academic work. Document (12p, pdf). http://www.msu.edu/~nellison/
This is more general stuff. General Social Software Research: http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/08/19/ research_on_soc.html - you should be reading danah's blog if you are into this. http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/10/announcing-unc-social- software.html
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Bonnie & others interested in this area - What i know thus far is listed on my site (and i'd encourage others to send me other articles that i should know about): http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/ 2006/08/19/research_on_soc.html Also, Nicole Ellison and i are putting together a special edition of JCMC on social network sites. Abstracts are due November 28: http:// www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~dmb/jcmc-sns/ I suspect that we will see a lot of interesting research there (and i'd encourage those of you working in this space to submit). Over the last 3 months, i've done a lot of reviewing of papers on social network sites. I'd expect to see some work in this area coming out of CHI, First Monday, New Media and Society, and JCMC on the academic side. I also have three papers in various states of review that i'd be happy to discuss off-list with anyone who is working in this area. (I don't want to foul up the review process and i'm not certain that they will be accepted so they aren't public.) danah PS: It's not *that* impossible to reach me... although i do admit drownage. On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Mark Bell wrote:
Dr. Nardi,
This is what I have on Facebook. For myspace I would consult danah boyd (she is very hard to get a hold of her) or someone from her list (link below).
There is also an edition of JCMC that will be dealing with social networks and facebook and MySpace will be mentioned. I am preparing a submission for this now that studies homophily in Facebook groups.
Facebook:
Stutzman, Frederic (2006).An Evaluation of Identity-Sharing Behavior in Social Network Communities. iDMa Journal (In press). Burkart, Jenae Dissertation "College Social Networking; A Virtual Ethnography of Facebook.com" Stutzman, F. (2006) Our Lives, Our Facebooks. Presentation to the 2006 International Sunbelt Social Network Conference, Vancouver, BC. (http://www.ibiblio.org/fred/pubs/stutzman_pub6.pdf) Stutzman, F. (2006) Student Life on the Facebook. Originally a weblog posting - non-traditional academic work. Document (12p, pdf). http://www.msu.edu/~nellison/
This is more general stuff. General Social Software Research: http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/08/19/ research_on_soc.html - you should be reading danah's blog if you are into this. http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/10/announcing-unc-social- software.html
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Hi danah, Would you mind giving me your opinion on a couple great cites to work in Facebook and MySpace? I looked at your site but I don't have time to go through it all and don't know what's the best stuff. I would expect to cite your work, and would like to know what else. I hope this isn't too much trouble -- trying to get a proposal done. Thanks very much. Re social networking sites and WoW, I think they cater to different needs. For social technologies such as phones, instant messaging, MySpace/Facebook, the goal is to maintain and intensify existing relationships. With games people are looking for entertainment. I always say "the game is the glue." People can come together even if they don't know each other and they have the game in common. It's quite amazing to watch this. If people really don't want to interact with strangers they probably would not choose to participate in Second Life, WoW, and many other virtual worlds that are heavily social but also focused on some kind of shared activity. MySpace/Facebook are not social in the sense of people doing something together, as I understand them. Anyway, I appreciate your perspectives on these issues and it helps me see things I might have overlooked. Best wishes, -- Bonnie On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:45 AM, danah boyd wrote:
Bonnie & others interested in this area - What i know thus far is listed on my site (and i'd encourage others to send me other articles that i should know about): http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/ 2006/08/19/research_on_soc.html
Also, Nicole Ellison and i are putting together a special edition of JCMC on social network sites. Abstracts are due November 28: http:// www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~dmb/jcmc-sns/ I suspect that we will see a lot of interesting research there (and i'd encourage those of you working in this space to submit).
Over the last 3 months, i've done a lot of reviewing of papers on social network sites. I'd expect to see some work in this area coming out of CHI, First Monday, New Media and Society, and JCMC on the academic side.
I also have three papers in various states of review that i'd be happy to discuss off-list with anyone who is working in this area. (I don't want to foul up the review process and i'm not certain that they will be accepted so they aren't public.)
danah
PS: It's not *that* impossible to reach me... although i do admit drownage.
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Mark Bell wrote:
Dr. Nardi,
This is what I have on Facebook. For myspace I would consult danah boyd (she is very hard to get a hold of her) or someone from her list (link below).
There is also an edition of JCMC that will be dealing with social networks and facebook and MySpace will be mentioned. I am preparing a submission for this now that studies homophily in Facebook groups.
Facebook:
Stutzman, Frederic (2006).An Evaluation of Identity-Sharing Behavior in Social Network Communities. iDMa Journal (In press). Burkart, Jenae Dissertation "College Social Networking; A Virtual Ethnography of Facebook.com" Stutzman, F. (2006) Our Lives, Our Facebooks. Presentation to the 2006 International Sunbelt Social Network Conference, Vancouver, BC. (http://www.ibiblio.org/fred/pubs/stutzman_pub6.pdf) Stutzman, F. (2006) Student Life on the Facebook. Originally a weblog posting - non-traditional academic work. Document (12p, pdf). http://www.msu.edu/~nellison/
This is more general stuff. General Social Software Research: http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/08/19/ research_on_soc.html - you should be reading danah's blog if you are into this. http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/10/announcing-unc-social- software.html
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Oh god, sorry everyone :( Bonnie On Nov 14, 2006, at 10:54 AM, Bonnie Nardi wrote:
Hi danah,
Would you mind giving me your opinion on a couple great cites to work in Facebook and MySpace? I looked at your site but I don't have time to go through it all and don't know what's the best stuff.
I would expect to cite your work, and would like to know what else. I hope this isn't too much trouble -- trying to get a proposal done. Thanks very much.
Re social networking sites and WoW, I think they cater to different needs. For social technologies such as phones, instant messaging, MySpace/Facebook, the goal is to maintain and intensify existing relationships. With games people are looking for entertainment. I always say "the game is the glue." People can come together even if they don't know each other and they have the game in common. It's quite amazing to watch this. If people really don't want to interact with strangers they probably would not choose to participate in Second Life, WoW, and many other virtual worlds that are heavily social but also focused on some kind of shared activity. MySpace/Facebook are not social in the sense of people doing something together, as I understand them.
Anyway, I appreciate your perspectives on these issues and it helps me see things I might have overlooked.
Best wishes,
--
Bonnie
On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:45 AM, danah boyd wrote:
Bonnie & others interested in this area - What i know thus far is listed on my site (and i'd encourage others to send me other articles that i should know about): http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/ 2006/08/19/research_on_soc.html
Also, Nicole Ellison and i are putting together a special edition of JCMC on social network sites. Abstracts are due November 28: http:// www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~dmb/jcmc-sns/ I suspect that we will see a lot of interesting research there (and i'd encourage those of you working in this space to submit).
Over the last 3 months, i've done a lot of reviewing of papers on social network sites. I'd expect to see some work in this area coming out of CHI, First Monday, New Media and Society, and JCMC on the academic side.
I also have three papers in various states of review that i'd be happy to discuss off-list with anyone who is working in this area. (I don't want to foul up the review process and i'm not certain that they will be accepted so they aren't public.)
danah
PS: It's not *that* impossible to reach me... although i do admit drownage.
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Mark Bell wrote:
Dr. Nardi,
This is what I have on Facebook. For myspace I would consult danah boyd (she is very hard to get a hold of her) or someone from her list (link below).
There is also an edition of JCMC that will be dealing with social networks and facebook and MySpace will be mentioned. I am preparing a submission for this now that studies homophily in Facebook groups.
Facebook:
Stutzman, Frederic (2006).An Evaluation of Identity-Sharing Behavior in Social Network Communities. iDMa Journal (In press). Burkart, Jenae Dissertation "College Social Networking; A Virtual Ethnography of Facebook.com" Stutzman, F. (2006) Our Lives, Our Facebooks. Presentation to the 2006 International Sunbelt Social Network Conference, Vancouver, BC. (http://www.ibiblio.org/fred/pubs/stutzman_pub6.pdf) Stutzman, F. (2006) Student Life on the Facebook. Originally a weblog posting - non-traditional academic work. Document (12p, pdf). http://www.msu.edu/~nellison/
This is more general stuff. General Social Software Research: http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/08/19/ research_on_soc.html - you should be reading danah's blog if you are into this. http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/10/announcing-unc-social- software.html
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Bonnie, Just a note. There is no overall shared activity in Second Life. M On 11/14/06, Bonnie Nardi <nardi@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
Oh god, sorry everyone :(
Bonnie
On Nov 14, 2006, at 10:54 AM, Bonnie Nardi wrote:
Hi danah,
Would you mind giving me your opinion on a couple great cites to work in Facebook and MySpace? I looked at your site but I don't have time to go through it all and don't know what's the best stuff.
I would expect to cite your work, and would like to know what else. I hope this isn't too much trouble -- trying to get a proposal done. Thanks very much.
Re social networking sites and WoW, I think they cater to different needs. For social technologies such as phones, instant messaging, MySpace/Facebook, the goal is to maintain and intensify existing relationships. With games people are looking for entertainment. I always say "the game is the glue." People can come together even if they don't know each other and they have the game in common. It's quite amazing to watch this. If people really don't want to interact with strangers they probably would not choose to participate in Second Life, WoW, and many other virtual worlds that are heavily social but also focused on some kind of shared activity. MySpace/Facebook are not social in the sense of people doing something together, as I understand them.
Anyway, I appreciate your perspectives on these issues and it helps me see things I might have overlooked.
Best wishes,
--
Bonnie
On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:45 AM, danah boyd wrote:
Bonnie & others interested in this area - What i know thus far is listed on my site (and i'd encourage others to send me other articles that i should know about): http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/ 2006/08/19/research_on_soc.html
Also, Nicole Ellison and i are putting together a special edition of JCMC on social network sites. Abstracts are due November 28: http:// www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~dmb/jcmc-sns/ I suspect that we will see a lot of interesting research there (and i'd encourage those of you working in this space to submit).
Over the last 3 months, i've done a lot of reviewing of papers on social network sites. I'd expect to see some work in this area coming out of CHI, First Monday, New Media and Society, and JCMC on the academic side.
I also have three papers in various states of review that i'd be happy to discuss off-list with anyone who is working in this area. (I don't want to foul up the review process and i'm not certain that they will be accepted so they aren't public.)
danah
PS: It's not *that* impossible to reach me... although i do admit drownage.
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Mark Bell wrote:
Dr. Nardi,
This is what I have on Facebook. For myspace I would consult danah boyd (she is very hard to get a hold of her) or someone from her list (link below).
There is also an edition of JCMC that will be dealing with social networks and facebook and MySpace will be mentioned. I am preparing a submission for this now that studies homophily in Facebook groups.
Facebook:
Stutzman, Frederic (2006).An Evaluation of Identity-Sharing Behavior in Social Network Communities. iDMa Journal (In press). Burkart, Jenae Dissertation "College Social Networking; A Virtual Ethnography of Facebook.com" Stutzman, F. (2006) Our Lives, Our Facebooks. Presentation to the 2006 International Sunbelt Social Network Conference, Vancouver, BC. (http://www.ibiblio.org/fred/pubs/stutzman_pub6.pdf) Stutzman, F. (2006) Student Life on the Facebook. Originally a weblog posting - non-traditional academic work. Document (12p, pdf). http://www.msu.edu/~nellison/
This is more general stuff. General Social Software Research: http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/08/19/ research_on_soc.html - you should be reading danah's blog if you are into this. http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/10/announcing-unc-social- software.html
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hmmm, i would argue the opposite. I would say the SL interface, the avatarian embodiment, the world physics with walking, flying and related activities all constitute an overall shared activity. But what do you mean by overall shared activity? On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mark Bell wrote:
Bonnie,
Just a note. There is no overall shared activity in Second Life.
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Jeremy, There are shared mechanisms, but not an overall goal or reward ladder as there is in WOW. that is what I was mentioning. M On 11/14/06, Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
hmmm, i would argue the opposite. I would say the SL interface, the avatarian embodiment, the world physics with walking, flying and related activities all constitute an overall shared activity. But what do you mean by overall shared activity? On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mark Bell wrote:
Bonnie,
Just a note. There is no overall shared activity in Second Life.
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Well, I meant you go to a place like SL to do something with others and not simply to get new information/updates on the lives of others. Those seem somewhat different to me. -- Bonnie On Nov 14, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
hmmm, i would argue the opposite. I would say the SL interface, the avatarian embodiment, the world physics with walking, flying and related activities all constitute an overall shared activity. But what do you mean by overall shared activity? On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mark Bell wrote:
Bonnie,
Just a note. There is no overall shared activity in Second Life.
M
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Jeremy and others, I'd say the interface itself does not provide a true shared activity, second life is a great place for shared activities, but the simple interface and movement scheme does not echo anything shared for me. A user could very easily use second life and attempt to never truly interact with others while still using a shared activity. Overall Shared Activity--Conceptually could mean many things but, shared activites are an important and neccessary part of the SL dynamic and I would argue that sharing or communal activities are central to what SL is about. Sorry for the somewhat not cohesive rant, Jon On 11/14/06, Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
hmmm, i would argue the opposite. I would say the SL interface, the avatarian embodiment, the world physics with walking, flying and related activities all constitute an overall shared activity. But what do you mean by overall shared activity? On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mark Bell wrote:
Bonnie,
Just a note. There is no overall shared activity in Second Life.
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I'd say you are right, but I'd also argue that the interface and the activities that you learn through provide a shared/'sharable experience. i don't thing in world co-presence is as strong as one would think. there are a ton of random associations in world where they might be in the same place, but their experience of it is profoundly different, even if they are chatting to each other. video, audio, hud enhancements, etc... the interface constitutes a frame for shared experience too in my view. i'm buridan simon in sl. On Nov 16, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Jonathan Stern wrote:
Jeremy and others,
I'd say the interface itself does not provide a true shared activity, second life is a great place for shared activities, but the simple interface and movement scheme does not echo anything shared for me. A user could very easily use second life and attempt to never truly interact with others while still using a shared activity.
Overall Shared Activity--Conceptually could mean many things but, shared activites are an important and neccessary part of the SL dynamic and I would argue that sharing or communal activities are central to what SL is about.
Sorry for the somewhat not cohesive rant,
Jon
On 11/14/06, Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
hmmm, i would argue the opposite. I would say the SL interface, the avatarian embodiment, the world physics with walking, flying and related activities all constitute an overall shared activity. But what do you mean by overall shared activity? On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mark Bell wrote:
Bonnie,
Just a note. There is no overall shared activity in Second Life.
M
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Jon, This is true. There is even a SL legend about this. Apparently, early in the world's history there was a monk avatar who walked around not interacting with anyone, but of course created a following =) M On 11/16/06, Jonathan Stern <jonlwstern@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremy and others,
I'd say the interface itself does not provide a true shared activity, second life is a great place for shared activities, but the simple interface and movement scheme does not echo anything shared for me. A user could very easily use second life and attempt to never truly interact with others while still using a shared activity.
Overall Shared Activity--Conceptually could mean many things but, shared activites are an important and neccessary part of the SL dynamic and I would argue that sharing or communal activities are central to what SL is about.
Sorry for the somewhat not cohesive rant,
Jon
On 11/14/06, Jeremy Hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
hmmm, i would argue the opposite. I would say the SL interface, the avatarian embodiment, the world physics with walking, flying and related activities all constitute an overall shared activity. But what do you mean by overall shared activity? On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mark Bell wrote:
Bonnie,
Just a note. There is no overall shared activity in Second Life.
M
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In case anyone's interested (it seems some might be), we just completed a paper on large-scale temporal rhythms in Facebook. We analyzed 4.2 million users' message headers and found some neat weekly and daily patterns in students' Facebook use. This includes how friend/non-friend and sameschool/different-school status affect messaging between users. We also looked a little at pokes. The paper is on our website, http://www.hpl.hp.com/research/idl/papers/facebook/index.html Scott Scott A. Golder Information Dynamics Lab, HP Labs scott.golder@hp.com 1.650.857.2020
Regarding this topic, I wonder if there is anyone doing research about the way musicians and bands use MySpace to promote their works. I am especially refering to those artists who cater for niche audiences and release records through netlabels. Thanks, -- Miguel Caetano http://remixtures.com 2006/10/31, Bonnie Nardi <nardi@ics.uci.edu>:
Hi All,
Can anyone recommend some top of the line research on MySpace and Facebook? I'm looking for thoughtful academic work rather than journalists' accounts.
Thanks very much.
--
Bonnie
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Hi Miguel. My PhD is on this topic but it's very early on and I can't add much to the discussion yet. On a personal note, this is what my Celtic folk band has been doing for some time (http://www.myspace.com/bunbere), though not very effectively via MySpace. (We've used other devices to much greater effect so far.) I'd love to see any literature people may have on this subject, though ... Cheers, Hughie http://www.huge.id.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miguel Afonso Caetano" <miguel.a.caetano@gmail.com> To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Air-l] refs on myspace and facebook
Regarding this topic, I wonder if there is anyone doing research about the way musicians and bands use MySpace to promote their works. I am especially refering to those artists who cater for niche audiences and release records through netlabels.
Thanks,
-- Miguel Caetano
2006/10/31, Bonnie Nardi <nardi@ics.uci.edu>:
Hi All,
Can anyone recommend some top of the line research on MySpace and Facebook? I'm looking for thoughtful academic work rather than journalists' accounts.
Thanks very much.
--
Bonnie
Bonnie A. Nardi School of Information and Computer Sciences University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92697-3425 (949) 824-6534 www.artifex.org/~bonnie/
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Hi, Marj and Hughie. Many thanks for you help. Would you please keep me informed of your researches? Best regards, -- Miguel Caetano http://remixtures.com 2006/10/31, Hughie <hmusic@ozemail.com.au>:
Hi Miguel.
My PhD is on this topic but it's very early on and I can't add much to the discussion yet. On a personal note, this is what my Celtic folk band has been doing for some time (http://www.myspace.com/bunbere), though not very effectively via MySpace. (We've used other devices to much greater effect so far.)
I'd love to see any literature people may have on this subject, though ...
Cheers, Hughie http://www.huge.id.au
----- Original Message ----- From: "Miguel Afonso Caetano" <miguel.a.caetano@gmail.com> To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Air-l] refs on myspace and facebook
Regarding this topic, I wonder if there is anyone doing research about the way musicians and bands use MySpace to promote their works. I am especially refering to those artists who cater for niche audiences and release records through netlabels.
Thanks,
-- Miguel Caetano
2006/10/31, Bonnie Nardi <nardi@ics.uci.edu>:
Hi All,
Can anyone recommend some top of the line research on MySpace and Facebook? I'm looking for thoughtful academic work rather than journalists' accounts.
Thanks very much.
--
Bonnie
Bonnie A. Nardi School of Information and Computer Sciences University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92697-3425 (949) 824-6534 www.artifex.org/~bonnie/
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