September 2003 - Air-L - lists.aoir.org

FW: ::fibreculture:: Fibreculture::Brisbane_2003::fibrepower:
by Danny Butt 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Hi I thought Air-l members may be interested in this. Cheers Danny -- http://www.dannybutt.net ------ Forwarded Message Fibreculture::Brisbane_2003:::::::::: fibrepower:: Currents in Australasian New Media Research and Internet Culture :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: July 11, 12, 13th:::2003 Fibreculture http://www.fibreculture.org Brisbane::Powerhouse - Centre for the Live Arts New Farm Park, Brisbane QLD Tel: 3358 - 8622 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Fibreculture::Brisbane_2003::::::Fibrepower::Schedule & Themes Three day Meeting Fri July 11, Sat 12, Sun 13th Powerhouse: Courier Mail room Fibreculture :: in association with critical new media studies sections in universities across Brisbane, invites you to a meeting in July 2003 on theory, policy, practice, and education in New Media and the Internet. Fibrepower :: Currents in Australasian New Media Research and Internet Culture will bring together practitioners in the academy and industry from around Australia and New Zealand to participate in critically informed debates about new media and its cultures. It follows the ANZCA03 conference (see http://www.bgsb.qut.edu.au/conferences/ANZCA03/index.html - 9-11 July at QUT Gardens Point Campus, Brisbane). :: Theme of the 2003 Fibreculture Meeting :: fibrepower:: In academic and popular discourses, new media, the Internet, and 'virtual reality' are often described as just this - a 'virtual' reality, an Other, a 'cyberspace' which is somehow disconnected from the 'real' and secondary to 'life' experiences and issues. It is rarely accepted in the dominant Internet discourses of commercial and social culture that the truth is vastly different. New media and networked technologies currently pervade our lives and connect us ever more closely and solidly as citizens of networked society. If information and knowledge, in the new economy, are 'power', then the copper, optical, or wireless fibres spanning the networks are conduits for this power; they are full of power, and powerful. Their daily influence and the network's influence on human society is real and tangible. Fibreculture:: wants to address this continued insistence on conceptualising networked life and Internet cultures as a separate, second-rate or exotic reality, a dichotomy which obscures fact and prevents any in-depth engagement with and critique of the power of 'fibre' over and in our everyday lives. Set in a literal and figurative locus of power from the previous, industrial, era, ::fibrepower:: will engage with a range of themes that disclose the unseen power of fibre-culture in the informational age. Outcomes of this event will include a high profile public forum, an online publication of refereed articles, and deeper connections between new media industries, the academy and others. The meeting will be held at the Brisbane Powerhouse from July 11-13, 2003. (For reports from past fibreculture meetings and updates on fibreculture 2003, please see the Website at http://www.fibreculture.org/.) :::::::::::: FRIDAY nite JULY 11th 7 p.m. Welcome and Registration 8 p.m. Session 1: Fibrepower in the Regions :: Headed by Gerard Goggin Public forum with Guest Speakers, Panelists, and Q&A (TBA) In Australasia regional and rural areas continue to miss out on reliable and fast access to the global networks. This contributes significantly to the growing digital divide, and carries important implications for public and private policy. How can we increase the fibrepower of the regions, and what are current examples of best practice? Gerard Goggin (g.goggin(a)uq.edu.au) is a postdoctoral research fellow in the Centre for Critical and Cultural Studies, University of Queensland. He is writing a book entitled *Networked Imaginings: Cultural History of Australian Internet*, and has long had an interest in rural and regional internet and telecommunications (not least from living in the country himself). plus :: Introduction to the Fibreculture List & its Open Session, M/C Collaboration, fc Webjournal, and other Fibreculture activities with Geert Lovink, David Teh, Axel Bruns, and other list facilitators. **10 p.m. OPENING Art & Music :: Digital Literacies :: New Media Arts Exhibition :: Guest djs and vjs. No host bar. In conjunction with the conference, Fibreculture and fineArtforum are offering an online gallery space set up as an opportunity for artists to explore critical literacies and conference themes. An A4 gallery of resonant works will also be displayed at the meeting venue providing opportunity for practitioners and attendees to respond visually to the fibrepower themes both beforehand and during the discussions. Organized by Jane Turner. --- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Fibrepower::Weekend Schedule - Discussion Sessions Brisbane Powerhouse - July 12th and 13th SATURDAY JULY 12th 8 a.m.::Registration 8:45 a.m.::Welcome 9 - 10:45 a.m.::Session 2: Intellectual Property-Intellectual Possibilities :: Headed by Esther Milne and Kate Crawford The exercise of intellectual property rights can stifle the generation of intellectual property. The U.S. Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) has been abused on any number of occasions. How can copyright be reconfigured for the networked age? How can creative rights be protected, and innovation ensured? How can fibrepower be harnessed to drive intellectual possibilities? What measures, policies and action should be implemented to protect indigenous cultural heritage and intellectual property? 10:45 a.m. Morning tea & coffee 11:15 - 1 p.m.::Session 3: Information Warfare :: Headed by Steve Stockwell and Geert Lovink Weapons of mass destruction may remain elusive - but weapons of mass disinformation are evident in any political or military conflict, if you know where and how to look. Information warfare adds to the firepower of conventional weapons arsenals. How do we disarm the information warriors? How do we distinguish freedom of information fighters from info-terrorists? How do we keep truth from becoming a battlefield detainee? 1 p.m.LUNCH 2:00 - 4 p.m. ::Session 4: Fibre Access Geopolitics Wired :: Headed by Guy Redden Much has been made of the distributed nature of the Internet. Does this make it a means through which previously unheard voices can carry, enhancing democracy? Or is it more that network capitalism can now get its tentacles everywhere, determining access and usage on its terms? This session invites critical appraisal and geopolitical interpretation of the spread of informational networks. How does the digital divide play out across space, class and ethnicity? Is access a luxury? With Google in China and aol.com in Australia and numerous other mergers and shifts, who controls the networks? With concentration/convergence, will there be an enclosure of the networks, new ways of constraining and exploiting their use to the detriment of the 'online commons'? Will distributed fibrepower continue to give an edge to international activism, indigenous rights, direct democracy/publishing, and other mobilisations against the centralisation of power? At least relative to other media? Consideration also needs to given to how these matters can be regulated. Is it time for a United Networks alongside the United Nations and who would hold the veto rights?! ____ 4 p.m.:: Warchalking Walk - Methods & Details Bring laptop with a wireless modem installed. Anyone with knowledge, please attend. ____ 7 p.m. Fibreculture dinner (optional) __ SUNDAY JULY 13th 9 a.m. Registration 10 - 11:45 a.m.::Session 5: The Internet Is Not Virtual :: Headed by Axel Bruns The myth of a separate, containable 'cyberspace' persists despite all evidence to the contrary. Rather than perpetuating new age visions of leaving the body behind to virtually 'inhabit' cyberspace, it is important to begin to realise that cyberspace, or fibrespace, already envelops society; is society. What are the implications of this fact? For example, how can disciplines like teaching and publishing turn to integrating Internet content, literacies, and technologies as part of their core activities rather than as an adjunct afterthought? In doing so, how can this 'fibrepower' be released from the strangleholds of outdated mythologies? 11:45 LUNCH 12:45 - 2:30 p.m.Session 6 ::Teaching Fibrepower:: :: Headed by Molly Hankwitz and Danny Butt Debates over technology and education are often couched in between the university sector hanging on to its critical freedom, authority and scholarship vs. government policy directions which are pushing higher education, among other sectors, into more corporatized, privatised spheres. Meanwhile, schools, colleges, and universities are struggling to keep up with the pace of technology. Teaching methods and approaches to cybercultures lag behind and students are often forced to take the initiative into their own hands if they hope to build useful skills sets and acquire an understanding of new media. Whole communities miss out on participating if they cannot make their voices heard. How can teaching institutions redress this situation? What are some excellent practices? 2:30 - 3 p.m. Afternoon Tea 3 - 4:45 p.m.::Open Session:: No set topic. Discussion about the direction of fibreculture. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: REGISTRATION: Three-day registration includes attendance at all sessions, lunches, morning and afternoon teas. All prices include GST. :: Three-day registration $27.50/$55.00 :: Opening nite forum and art exhibition only $10.00/$15.00 (Prices are for students and other concession cardholders / non-students) Pre-registration forms are available from the fibreculture website: http://www.fibreculture.org/ Late registration will be possible during the meeting. Cheques, cash and money orders only, thank you. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: For more information and to subscribe to the fibreculture list: See http://www.fibreculture.org/ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: For more inf. contact meeting organizers: Axel Bruns snurb(a)snurb.info Molly Hankwitz m.hankwitz(a)qut.edu.au Thank you to all participants and sponsors, John Hartley, QUT, UQ Media & Cultural Studies, M/C, fAf, Brisbane Powerhouse, Karen Hands, David Cox, Anna Zagala, and Jo Gray. Fibreculture 2003 sponsors: QUT Creative Industries Faculty http://www.creativeindustries.qut.edu.au/ - UQ Media and Cultural Studies Centre http://www.emsah.uq.edu.au/ - M/C - Media and Culture http://www.media-culture.org.au/ - fineArt forum http://www.fineartforum.org/ - Australian Network for Art and Technology http://www.anat.org.au/ - Brisbane Powerhouse - Centre for the Live Arts http://www.brisbanepowerhouse.org/ - Fibreculture is served by: Myspinach http://www.myspinach.org/ ::::::::::::::::::: ::posted on ::fibreculture:: mailinglist for australian ::critical internet theory, culture and research ::subscribe: fibreculture-request(a)lists.myspinach.org ::with "subscribe" in the subject line ::unsubcribe: fibreculture-request(a)lists.myspinach.org ::with "unsubscribe" in the subject line ::info and archive: http://www.fibreculture.org ::please send announcements to seperate mailinglist: :: http://lists.myspinach.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fibreculture-announce ------ End of Forwarded Message

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FACCT Online Forum - Empowering Patients Online
by Aryne Blumklotz 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Join us for a FACCT online forum Empowering Patients Online* featuring Gary Schwitzer Health care journalist and communications authority Tuesday, June 18 - Thursday, June 20 We invite you to participate in an online discussion about Web-based decision-support tools. Learn how these tools work, how they are developed, who is using them and how they benefit consumers. Log on for a few minutes each day to: * Learn about the top Web-based consumer support tools for online decision-making. * Discuss the pros and cons of the most popular tools. * Find out what consumers want and what these online products offer. * Generate ideas for building a consumer-centered model for online decision-making. *Empowering Patients Online is a free event - but you must register to participate. To register simply reply to this e-mail listing your name and e-mail address in the message space. We'll send you instructions on how to log onto the site and participate in the discussion. Aryne Blumklotz, MPH - Communications Coordinator FACCT - The Foundation for Accountability 1200 NW Naito Parkway, Suite 470 Portland, OR 97209 Phone: (503) 546-9717 Fax: (503) 223-4336 www.facct.org

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virtual reception theory (or still dense!)
by Denise N. Rall 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

> Dear AIR-ers - > Okay, I have refined my question. I think I am looking for literature that defines how reception theory differs when reception is mediated through a virtual audience. I have read a bit of Manovich, L. (200x). "Post media aesthetics: Medium in crisis [online]." Also quite a bit of Michael Heim, virtual realism. To me, he was talking about the differences in social identity when we present ourselves online (also Turkle). I am looking for the reception side of this equation rather than the presentation side and I don't know the CMC comm. theory too well. I have read _Secondary Orality_ and I don't think Ong is the answer, either. Thanks for any pointers in this direction! Denise [Maybe I'm still dense in which case ignore this email as well ;-)] ===== "Stupidity is not just a lack of content; it's also a process" Denise N. Rall, Sustainable Forestry Mentoring Coordinator & PhD student, School of EnvironSciMgmt, Southern Cross University, PO Box 157, Lismore, NSW, 2480 Australia Phone +61-2-6624-8627 Fax +61-2-6624-8637 Office (Tuesdays) (02) 6620 3577 Mob 0438 233 344 http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/edu/research/deniserall/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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FYI - index of journals
by Irene Berkowitz 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

I just got this on another listserv and thought I would pass it along. The Iowa guide online at (http://fmp2.its.uiowa.edu/iowaguide/indexpage.html) has a list of journals for media related articles. It gives details as to content covered, if it is blind reviewed, page lengths, bibliography format, etc. Thanks, IB Irene Berkowitz Program Director, Curricular Publications and Systems Office of the Vice Provost Temple University tel. 215-204-7596 fax. 215-204 3175 berkowitz(a)mail.temple.edu

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* New * Geert Lovink: My First Recession
by geert lovink 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

My First Recession Critical Internet Culture in Transition By Geert Lovink ISBN 90-5662-353-2 V2_Publishers, Rotterdam, 2003 My First Recession starts after the party is over. This study maps the transition of critical Internet culture from the mid to late 1990s Internet craze to the dotcom crash, the subsequent meltdown of global financial markets and 9/11. In his discussion of the dotcom boom-and-bust cycle, Geert Lovink lays out the challenges faced by critical Internet culture today. In a series of case studies, Lovink meticulously describes the ambivalent attitude that artists and activists take as they veer back and forth between euphoria and skepticism. As a part of this process, Lovink examines the internal dynamics of virtual communities through an analysis of the use of moderation and "collaborative filtering" on mailing lists and weblogs. He also confronts the practical and theoretical problems that appear as artists join the growing number of new-media education programs. Delving into the unexplored gold mines of list archives and weblogs, Lovink reveals a world that is largely unknown to both the general public and the Internet visionaries. Geert Lovink is a Australian-based Dutch media theorist and Internet critic, a co-founder of numerous online projects such as Nettime and Fibreculture, and the author of Dark Fiber and Uncanny Networks. Table of Contents: Introduction: Currents in Critical Internet Culture; Post-speculative Internet Theory, Three Positions: Dreyfus, Castells, Lessig; Anatomy of Dotcommania, Overview of Recent Literature; Deep Europe and the Kosovo Conflict, a History of the V2_East/Syndicate Network; Principles of Streaming Sovereignty, a History of the Xchange Network; Oekonux and the Free Software Model, From Linux to the GPL-Society; The Battle over New Media Art Education, Models and Experiences; Defining Open Publishing, Of Lists and Weblogs; Conclusion: Boundaries and Sustainable Models. -- V2 Publishing titles are distributed through the publishing house of the Netherlands Architecture Institute. The book will be available in Europe in the Fall 2003 and in the USA and through Amazon from January 2004. V2_Publishing Eendrachtsstraat 10 3012 XL Rotterdam The Netherlands tel: +31.10.206.72.72 fax:+31.10.206.72.71 www.publishing.v2.nl For publicity please contact Marije Stijkel (marije(a)v2.nl,) Direct ordering through V2: store(a)v2.nl Available in North, South and Central America through D.A.P./Distributed Art Publishers Inc, 155 Sixth Avenue 2nd Floor, New York, NY 10013-1507, Tel 212 6271999, Fax 212 6279484. Available in the United Kingdom and Ireland through Art Data, 12 Bell Industrial Estate, 50 Cunnington Street, London W4 5HB, Tel 208 7471061, Fax 208 7422319. Available in Australia and New Zealand through Modern Journal, Robyn Ralton, P.O. Box 1082 Collingwood 3066 Australia tel/fax 0061 3 9481 2877 email modernjournal(a)netspace.net.au

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CFP: TIS issue on Internet Research
by Nancy Baym 06 Oct '03

06 Oct '03

Please distribute widely! CALL FOR PAPERS The Information Society (TIS) special issue on ICT RESEARCH AND DISCIPLINARY BOUNDARIES: IS "INTERNET RESEARCH" A VIRTUAL FIELD, A PROTO-DISCIPLINE, OR SOMETHING ELSE? Edited by Nancy Baym, University of Kansas Issues raised by information and communications technologies (ICTs) transcend disciplinary boundaries. Ever since the beginning of ICT research, scholars have sought to carve out spaces within the discipline-bound institutional structures where streams of thoughts of different hues co-mingle more freely. The early efforts in the 1960s and 1970s focused on the creation of interdisciplinary research centers and programs and journals such as Telecommunications Policy and The Information Society. In the 1980s and 1990s, we saw the rise of schools of information, information studies, and informatics on campuses where the conditions were ripe for entrepreneurial activity. The variation in the names and curricula of these schools suggests that we are still trying to get a sense of the new intellectual landscape. Within this unsettled context, the growing number of researchers attracted towards the Association of Internet Researchers [AoIR] conference gives reason for pause. One now often hears people talking about the "field" of "Internet Research" while its practitioners continue to be housed in departments and schools of library science, business, information science, communications, and others. Something clearly seems to be afoot. But what is it? Is Internet Research a virtual field wherein we have resigned to the permanence of disciplinary boundaries and created an overlay or virtual network across them? Or, are we seeing the emergence of a proto-discipline whose growth will knock down disciplinary boundaries and create a new institutional space? Or, is Internet Research a forerunner of some other configuration we barely understand? This special issue seeks to explore and chart out this evolving intellectual landscape. Contributions in the form of full-length articles (6000 words), forum pieces (3000 words), and short position papers (1000 words) are invited. The special issue intends to present a variety of perspectives and hence is open in terms of topics covered. Among other things, contributors could address questions such as the following: To what extent is Internet Research an academic "field" or "discipline"? What does it mean to label this field? Is "Internet Research" the right name? What are the other possibilities and what are their implications? To the extent that it is a field, what is its emergent structure? In what ways does the growth of this research area parallel or differ from other disciplines? What lessons for the present and the future might be learned from those histories? Where do we stand now relative to where Film Studies, Women's Studies, and other new fields were a few years ago? Manuscripts prepared according to the TIS guidelines (http://www.indiana.edu/~tisj/contributors/authors.html) should be submitted by February 27, 2004. Please send the manuscripts to Nancy Baym (nbaym(a)ku.edu) Authors are encouraged to discuss their ideas with the guest editor. -- Nancy Baym http://www.ku.edu/home/nbaym Communication Studies, University of Kansas 102 Bailey Hall, 1440 Jayhawk Blvd., Lawrence, KS 66045, USA Association of Internet Researchers: http://aoir.org

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social shaping of eScience and eSocial Science
by steve woolgar 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Dear listmembers ESRC have asked me to do a scoping report to identify issues and problems they should be funding around "the social shaping of eScience and eSocial Science". The basic idea is that despite enormous unfolding investment in eg grid technologies, it seems we know almost nothing about how and why (and by whom) these new technologies will be taken up, nor what will be the likely effects on the nature and conduct of e(Social)Science research. Social shaping is defined very broadly to include all social scientific aspects of the genesis, use, implementation and effects of the new e technologies. Given the recent postings on this topic by Jeremy Hunsinger, Franz Barjak, Denise Rall and Caroline Haythornthwaite; and given the international nature of this list Im keen to get your perspectives. Wed like to know where and how you see your work fit in (if at all), and what are your views on the issues and questions which should be funded. Would you be so kind as to help us please by taking a few moments to respond to the brief questions below? Many thanks for your help (and apologies if you have already received this request separately.) Steve 1. We have thus far identified a number of questions and issues that fall within the remit of social shaping of eScience and eSocial Science. Examples are: What social circumstances encourage or inhibit data sharing and collaborative working? - How will the implementation of new grid technologies affect this situation? - How will the new grid technologies affect the methodologies employed by scientists and social scientists? - How will patterns of communication between scientists be affected? - To what extent will IPR be an issue? - Can we anticipate different attitudes to risk, liability and responsibility? - Are changing structures of accountability concomitant with changing communication practices? - What are the issues around ethics, privacy and trust? - What different social and economic factors affect the uptake and use of grid technologies in different organisational settings? - How can scientists and social scientists be persuaded to make use of the new technologies? Which of these questions best describe your own work? Which others should we add? 2. We have also identified a number of disciplinary perspectives that come under the very broad rubric of social shaping of eScience and eSocial Science. Examples are: - Sociology of technology, science and technology studies - Social informatics, CSCW, ethnomethodology - Library information science, computer-assisted content analysis, data mining - Organisational analysis, economics and business studies, innovation theory - Science communication - History and philosophy of science and technology - Communication studies and education studies - Psychology and anthropology of technology use - Media studies and internet studies - Social science methodology Which of these disciplinary perspectives best fits with your own work? Or, if none of these apply, how would you characterise your work? 3. Could your work be reasonably described as: a) social shaping of e(Social)Science b) social shaping of other technologies c) neither (please specify why not) 4. Frequently, a distinction is made between research which uses the new (grid) technologies and research that is about the use of these technologies. Does your research fit most easily into: a) research which uses new technologies b) research which is about the use of new technologies c) both 5. Please nominate 3 (or more) people who you regard as the key players in this area: 6. Can you think of others who, although not working within a social shaping remit, may be interested in collaborating in social shaping of eScience and eSocial Science projects or initiatives? Thanks again! Professor Steve Woolgar Saïd Business School University of Oxford Park End Street Oxford OX1 1HP +44 (0)1865 288902 **************************** S Woolgar (ed) Virtual Society? - technology, cyberbole, reality (Oxford University Press, 2002) 20% discount for orders through the website: www.virtualsociety.org.uk

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How to cite blogs?
by Thomas N. Burg 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Hi there, I'm wondering how to cite blogs correctly. That involves some aspects I think. There are the citation rules - not mentioning blogs, at least to my knowledge - and some ethical issues. If a blog has a denomination and no author/editor mentioned what am I supposed to do if I know the name of that person. Or if he just uses a first name or ... I posted this question on my blog (in German) http://randgaenge.net/2003/09/28.html#a1941 and got several replies. Thanks Thomas Thomas N. Burg Center for New Media Danube University Krems http://randgaenge.net

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e-science, the grid, and supercomputers
by jeremy hunsinger 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Having recently been made aware that my university is moving in a very major way into the field of e-science by bringing online a new supercomputer and intending to hook that up to the national lambdarail project as part of the terascale grid computing network, I'm wondering if anyone on the list is working on any of these topics, as they all have to do with internet research in some way, and specifically scientific uses of the internet, well at least in our case. here are some informational links: lambdarail http://www.getlight.net/ Virginia Tech terascale cluster http://computing.vt.edu/research_computing/terascale/ Jeremy Hunsinger Center for Digital Discourse and Culture () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments

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Toronto restaurants and MORE
by Liss Jeffrey 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Thanks Alex: Hope everyone is ready to come to Toronto for our "Broadening the Band" conference. Thanks to the creative volunteers who are making this event possible, we will have a helpful restaurant guide ready for our visiting Aoir-ites. Go here for a look at the Aoir Toronto 2003 HILTON ZONE http://www.ecommons.net/aoir/toronto.phtml - soon we will be featuring some of the spots that are highly recommended. The GALA runs from 7 to 11 (so we call it the 7-11 gala) and will present an arts performance, open mic mini-speeches, and a DJ. You can sign up to sit with others at a table (birds of a feather encouraged), or go visit someone whose name you know but whom you have not yet met, by following our unique table URL system. Register now online or by email to lmorgan(a)ecommons.net. Only $50 U.S. Last call for suggested chairs for panels. Matt and his Program committee have done an outstanding job and the final final program will be ready and online early next week. I will be in touch with all chairs to confirm their participation later this week. We are still taking small ads ($250 or $500) to offset costs of the Program, so if you or your department can help please contact ljeffrey(a)mcluhan.org . Deadline for ads is Friday, October 3rd. So many thanks to Rhiannon Bury (hotel and tech support coordination), Catherine Middleton (budget chief), and Olivia Robertson (volunteers and gala) who helped Lisa Morgan, Jackie Reid, Christie Hurrell and Fraser McAninch hold the conference fort while I was away unexpectedly in Geneva (fighting the good fight at the prep meeting for the World summit on the information society - WATCH FOR OUR BIRDS OF A FEATHER MEETING). We are all looking forward to greeting you in Toronto the convivial. Regular updates will appear on our web site and in this list. Queries are welcome. Liss Jeffrey, PhD conference chair Aoir Toronto 2003. www.ecommons.net/aoir >From: "Alex Kuskis" <akuskis(a)ican.net> >To: <air-l(a)aoir.org> >Subject: Re: [Air-l] Toronto Restaurants >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:32:47 -0400 >Reply-To: air-l(a)aoir.org > > > >For Toronto restaurants, click on http://www.menupalace.com/home.htm . >Then click on "Entertainment District", and you will find a listing of >restaurants >within walking distance of the Hilton. Toronto is incredibly well served by >restaurants of all kinds. For restaurant reviews, see >http://www.whynotdine.com/Canadian_Restaurants/Toronto_Restaurant_Reviews/ >...........Alex >=

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