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RE: [Air-l] we need a new word? (Intern)
by richard-seyler.ling＠telenor.com 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Wouldn't a type of overly technical description be IP mediated communication? All the things you describe are IP based and go via the Internet. Yet they are communication (in the social sense of the word). Using IP mediated communication would allow us the fun of coining a new acronym like IPMC or IPMECOM or IPCOM that only the cognicenti understand for awhile. I note, however, that your discussion does not necessarily include mobile communication. For that we would need another acronym like MOMECOM for mobile mediated communication. Rich L. -----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces(a)listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org]On Behalf Of Barry Wellman Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 16:45 PM To: aoir list Subject: [Air-l] we need a new word? I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA). And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS). What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness. So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word. Barry _____________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman at chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 To network is to live; to live is to network _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ The Air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/

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Re: [Air-l] Internet vs. WWW
by Ren Reynolds 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Art >Incorrect. The Internet proper is a distributed network of networks which consists of a common set of technical protocols that serve as the foundation upon which almost all CMC services or groups of services currently rest, including the WWW. The individual networks do not just consist of a common set of protocols, they all use the TCP/IP set at the top level and talk to each other using BGP (boarder gateway protocol). However at lower levels some networks use protocols such as ATM for what’s known as “traffic shaping” as the wild and free nature of IP is all very well unless you’re trying to manage a large network commercially. Also some networks carry other protocols depending on what the network owner wants to do with it. Increasingly the ‘internet’ bit is actually just a virtual network or protocol bundle within a larger multi- protocol network that is used for all sorts of things, the reason being that providers are looking to consolidate old data and voice networks on to a common set of fibre and big routers such as the large Juniper ones. Thus networks are common at one level and often heterogeneous at others. >The Internet is essentially an open communications platform and agreement upon which services are built. Well, “agreements”. Typically ‘peering’ between two networks that exchange similar volumes of traffic and ‘transit’ where a smaller network buys up stream bandwidth from a larger (generally better connected) one. >The Internet itself doesn't do anything. What makes The Internet special is what it allows you to build with it. That’s moot I think. There is the so called end-to-end design philosophy of the net which means that you keep the centre dumb and leave the smart stuff at the outside. However DNS is a distributed but hierarchal system with central servers. SMTP is based on servers that can be argued to be in the net. It’s arguable whether these constitute doing ‘anything’ or not. >The WWW is a subset and extension of the The Internet, consisting of both a communications protocol (HTTP) and a page markup language (HTML), whose specific purpose is the presentation of information in a format that previously was only possible via desktop publishing. If WWW is a subset of the Internet and the internet existed before WWW then Internet must denote the network of interconnected networks and the set of common protocols that run on those networks at any given time. Noting that the protocols might change over time and that not all protocols might be common to all networks at all times and that some networks will run protocols that are exceptional; and that network refers to some physical stuff and some virtual networks that run on that physical stuff and, increasingly, wireless networks. So I guess what the term Internet is doing is picking out a particular yet shifting group of protocols and services embedded within a changing network of physical, virtual and wireless networks and attendant contracts. Ren ---- Original message ---- >Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:28:28 -0800 (PST) >From: Art McGee <amcgee(a)virtualidentity.org> >Subject: Re: [Air-l] Internet vs. WWW >To: air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org > >> Up till now, i've commonsensically used "the Internet" to >> denote, essentially, everything that i can access or >> receive and anyone i connect with when i "go online" >> (connect my computer to data that is not on my computer's >> harddrive). In other words, i've used "the Internet" to >> denote the sum of all that's online. > >Incorrect. The sum total of all that is metaphorically >referred to as "online" is most properly called Cyberspace. > >Some people extend cyberspace to include non-computer >related technologies and forms of communication not >involving technology, but for the most part, common usage of >the term Cyberspace has narrowed over the years to be >specific to CMC. > >Cyberspace predates The Internet and is a superset of The >Internet. Cyberspace includes proprietary networks and >protocols that existed before the Internet was conceived of >and still exist outside of it. > >> I've always assumed commonsensically that "the world wide >> web" simply denotes the network of computers that are >> "online" (all or part of the time). Since what's online >> has to rest (or am i missing some basic tech fact?) on >> some computer, and since to access what's on a particular >> computer, that computer needs to connected to other >> computers, "the World Wide Web" and "the Internet" as i >> understood their meaning refer to the same referent. > >Incorrect. The Internet proper is a distributed network of >networks which consists of a common set of technical >protocols that serve as the foundation upon which almost all >CMC services or groups of services currently rest, including >the WWW. The Internet is essentially an open communications >platform and agreement upon which services are built. The >Internet itself doesn't do anything. What makes The Internet >special is what it allows you to build with it. > >The WWW is a subset and extension of the The Internet, >consisting of both a communications protocol (HTTP) and a >page markup language (HTML), whose specific purpose is the >presentation of information in a format that previously was >only possible via desktop publishing. In other words, the >WWW was created in order to move some aspects of DTP from >your local hard disk onto the larger network. Previously, >most information on the net was served in extremely simple >ASCII text formats. > >The Internet predates the WWW. The WWW is a recent extension >and addition to The Internet. Before the WWW, there were >other cruder protocols and services which had a similar >function and purpose. They went by names such as ARCHIE, >VERONICA, GOPHER, and WAIS. > >> also, up till now i also thought of "cyberworld" as an a >> term interchangeable with the other two terms, but that >> leaves me with no term to denote the "life-world" of >> people online, as distinguished from "the Internet" as >> defined above. Could "cyberworld" be used to denote this >> "life-world", or will that be another gross carelessness >> with definitions (i can almost feel Thomas Hobbes standing >> behind me getting ready to slap me ... ) > >Cyberspace is definitely NOT interchangeable with The >Internet or the WWW. As I said before: > >Cyberspace is a superset of The Internet. > >Cyberspace predates The Internet. > >Cyberspace exists outside of The Internet. > >The Internet is a superset of The WWW. > >The Internet predates The WWW. > >The WWW is a subset and extension of The Internet. > > >Art >_______________________________________________ >The Air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org mailing list >is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org >Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > >Join the Association of Internet Researchers: >http://www.aoir.org/

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CFP: Persistent Conversation minitrack (HICSS 39)
by Tom Erickson 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

CALL FOR PAPERS Seventh Annual Minitrack on Persistent Conversation Hawaii International Conference on Systems Science (HICSS 39) Hyatt Regency, Kauai, Hawaii January 4-7, 2006 New changes: - Abstract deadline extended to March 31st - A half-day workshop will precede the minitrack === AT A GLANCE === = Summary of Topic = Persistent conversations occur via instant messaging, chat, email, blogs, bulletin boards, MOOs, graphical VR environments, document annotation systems, text messaging on mobile phones, etc. Such forms of conversation play a crucial role in domains such as online communities, the sharing and management of knowledge, and the support of e-commerce, e-learning and other network mediated interactions. The persistence of digitally mediated conversation affords new uses (e.g. searching, replaying, restructuring) and raises new problems. This multi-disciplinary minitrack seeks contributions from researchers and designers that improve our ability to understand, analyze, and/or design persistent conversation systems. = Who = Researchers and designers from fields such as anthropology, computer-mediated communication, HCI, interaction design, linguistics, management, psychology, rhetoric, sociology, and so forth. We also welcome submissions from graduate students. = Chairs = Thomas Erickson, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center (snowfall(a)acm.org) Susan Herring, School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University (herring(a)indiana.edu) = Important Dates* = Abstract submission:** Thursday, March 31, 2005 Abstract feedback: Thursday, April 15, 2005 Paper submission: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 Accept/Reject notice: Monday, August 15, 2005 Final papers due: Thursday, September 15, 2005 One author must register: Thursday, September 15, 2005 * For other dates. such as end of early registration and hotel deadlines see the official HICSS conference site ** Abstracts are optional but strongly recommended; to submit a paper without an abstract, please contact the chairs = For More Information = * This call for participation: http://www.visi.com/~snowfall/HICSS39pc.html * History (papers and participants in previous minitracks): http://www.visi.com/~snowfall/HICSS_PC_History.html * About the minitrack, contact: snowfall(a)acm.org, herring(a)indiana.edu * About the HICSS conference, see: http://www.hicss.hawaii.edu/Hicss39/apahome39.htm === DETAILS === = About the Minitrack = This interdisciplinary minitrack and workshop brings designers and researchers together to explore persistent conversation, the transposition of ordinarily ephemeral conversation into the potentially persistent digital medium. The phenomena of interest include human-to-human interactions carried out using chat, instant messaging, text messaging, email, web logs, mailing lists, news groups, bulletin board systems, multi-authored Web documents, structured conversation systems, textual and graphical virtual worlds, etc. Computer-mediated conversations blend characteristics of oral conversation with those of written text: they may be synchronous or asynchronous; their audience may be small or vast; they may be highly structured or almost amorphous; etc. The persistence of such conversations gives them the potential to be searched, browsed, replayed, annotated, visualized, restructured, and recontextualized, thus opening the door to a variety of new uses and practices. The particular aim of the minitrack and workshop is to bring together researchers who analyze existing computer-mediated conversational practices and sites, with designers who propose, implement, or deploy new types of conversational systems. By bringing together participants from such diverse areas as anthropology, computer-mediated communication, HCI, interaction design, linguistics, management, psychology, rhetoric, sociology, and the like, we hope that the work of each may inform the others, suggesting new questions, methods, perspectives, and design approaches. = About Paper Topics = We are seeking papers that address one or both of the following two general areas: * Understanding Practice. The burgeoning popularity of the internet (and intranets) provides an opportunity to study and characterize new forms of conversational practice. Questions of interest range from how various features of conversations (e.g., turn-taking, topic organization, expression of paralinguistic information) have adapted in response to the digital medium, to new roles played by persistent conversation in domains such as education, business, and entertainment. *Design. Digital systems do not currently support conversation well: it is difficult to converse with grace, clarity, depth and coherence over networks. But this need not remain the case. Toward this end, we welcome analyses of existing systems as well as designs for new systems which better support conversation. Also of interest are inquiries into how participants design their own conversations within the digital medium -- that is, how they make use of system features to create, structure, and regulate their discourse. Examples of appropriate topics include, but are not limited to: * Turn-taking, threading and other structural features of CMC * The dynamics of large scale conversation systems (e.g. USENET) * Methods for summarizing or visualizing conversation archives * Studies of virtual communities or other sites of digital conversation * The roles of mediated conversation in knowledge management * Studies of the use of instant messaging in large organizations * Novel designs for computer-mediated conversation systems * Analyses of or designs for distance learning systems For other examples see the list of previous years' papers: http://www.visi.com/~snowfall/HICSS_PC_History.html = The Workshop = The minitrack will be preceded by a half-day workshop open to all minitrack authors, as well as those who will form the core audience for the minitrack. See the online version of this call for more details: http://www.visi.com/~snowfall/HICSS39pc.html = Instructions for Abstract Submission = Submit a 250 word abstract of your proposed paper via email to the chairs: Tom Erickson <snowfall(a)acm.org>, Susan Herring <herring(a)indiana.edu> by the deadline noted above. = Instructions for Paper Submission = * HICSS papers must contain original material not previously published, or currently submitted elsewhere. All papers will be submitted in double column publication format and limited to 10 pages including diagrams and references. Papers undergo a double-blind review. * Do not submit the manuscript to more than one Minitrack Chair. If unsure which Minitrack is appropriate, submit the abstract to the Track Chair for guidance. * Submit your full paper according to the instructions found on the HICSS web site: http://www.hicss.hawaii.edu/Hicss39/apahome39.htm === END, HICSS PERSISTENT CONVERSATION CFP ===

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Re: [Air-l] "network of networks" - origin of
by Laurent Straskraba 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

That's very interesting. Thanks for the reference. Actually, I thought it was going back to Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn but 1973 was the year, no doubt. While talking about origin, I remember Joseph C.R. Licklider's (ARPA) concept of a "Galactic Network" going back to the early 1960s when also ideas of sociocybernetics came up - much influenced by Norbert Wiener who wrote his book about Cybernetics in 1948 (!). Best, Laurent At 21:16 20.03.2005, you wrote: >In a recent post, Neil Randall referred to the internet as a "network of >networks." > >In case anyone is interested, Paul Craven and I invented that term in our >1973 article "The Network City." (in _Sociological Inquiry_ 43 (Winter): >57-88. [Reprinted in _The Community_, edited by Marcia Effrat. New York: >Free Press, 1974.] > >Way back then, we were referring to social networks, but the concept was >the same as was later ported over to the internet (or independently >re-invented). > >In short, we claim terminological priority! > Barry > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director > wellman at chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman > > Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto > 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 > To network is to live; to live is to network > _____________________________________________________________________ > > >_______________________________________________ >The Air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org mailing list >is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org >Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: >http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > >Join the Association of Internet Researchers: >http://www.aoir.org/ --- Mag. Laurent Straskraba Information Society Researcher post: Ontlstrasse 3, A - 4040 Linz, Austria / Europe mobile: +43.650.7711861 (GMT +1) e-mail: laurent(a)straskraba.net web: http://www.straskraba.net ---

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Internet vs. WWW
by reuven shlozberg 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

Joanne (or others), as a newbie to the academic study of the Internet, with no tech background, could you explain to me what difference between the two is? Up till now, i've commonsensically used "the Internet" to denote, essentially, everything that i can access or receive and anyone i connect with when i "go online" (connect my computer to data that is not on my computer's harddrive). In other words, i've used "the Internet" to denote the sum of all that's online. I've always assumed commonsensically that "the world wide web" simply denotes the network of computers that are "online" (all or part of the time). Since what's online has to rest (or am i missing some basic tech fact?) on some computer, and since to access what's on a particular computer, that computer needs to connected to other computers, "the World Wide Web" and "the Internet" as i understood their meaning refer to the same referent. also, up till now i also thought of "cyberworld" as an a term interchangeable with the other two terms, but that leaves me with no term to denote the "life-world" of people online, as distinguished from "the Internet" as defined above. Could "cyberworld" be used to denote this "life-world", or will that be another gross carelessness with definitions (i can almost feel Thomas Hobbes standing behind me getting ready to slap me ... ) thanks, Reuven Shlozberg Political Science University of Toronto

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Re: we need a new word?
by Bram Dov Abramson 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

air-l-aoir.org-request(a)listserv.aoir.org (12:20, 19.3.2005): >And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- >but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the >traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." >(add your favoriteincluding Usenet and BBS). > >What to call it? I usually use: - "Internet applications", for those things that specifically require the Internet. (Most of the ones you listed.) - "media applications", as the more general class of things that may but don't always need the Internet -- even if they increasingly do. (Like mobile media applications.) cheers Bram

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Internet vs. WWW
by reuven shlozberg 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

Joanne (and others), as a newbie to the academic study of the Internet, with no tech background, could you explain to me what difference between the two is? Up till now, i've commonsensically used "the Internet" to denote, essentially, everything that i can access or receive and anyone i connect with when i "go online" (connect my computer to data that is not on my computer's harddrive). In other words, i've used "the Internet" to denote the sum of all that's online. I've always assumed commonsensically that "the world wide web" simply denotes the network of computers that are "online" (all or part of the time). Since what's online has to rest (or am i missing some basic tech fact?) on some computer, and since to access what's on a particular computer, that computer needs to connected to other computers, "the World Wide Web" and "the Internet" as i understood their meaning refer to the same referent. also, up till now i also thought of "cyberworld" as an a term interchangeable with the other two terms, but that leaves me with no term to denote the "life-world" of people online, as distinguished from "the Internet" as defined above. Could "cyberworld" be used to denote this "life-world", or will that be another gross carelessness with definitions (i can almost feel Thomas Hobbes standing behind me getting ready to slap me ... ) thanks, Reuven Shlozberg Political Science University of Toronto

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Re: [Air-l] we need a new word?
by Alex Halavais 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:32:59 +0100, Ulf-Dietrich Reips <ureips(a)genpsy.unizh.ch> wrote: > imho we shouldn't attempt to find *one* new word > for a conglomerate of different services, > concepts, and psycho-socio-technological spheres. <snip> > Let's differentiate, identify, and regroup our terminological entities! > While I'm all for differentiation, I do think there is a need for conceptualizing beyond the differences in communication technologies. At this point, very little of the media I consume is not digital and integrated into the global computer network (whatever we are calling it). I place "telephone" calls, get my "film" developed, listen to the "radio," and watch "television" and "motion pictures" through the internet. I have a feeling that our conceptualizations, along with our vocabularies, are not keeping pace with this technological convergence. We should have better ways of thinking about how these media are converging, and that should be reflected in the terms we use. Because the levels of integration beneath the application layer are relatively invisible, I think they are probably especially worth considering. So, yes, we should continue to talk about applications and not assume that "internet use" means the same thing to everyone, but at the same time, there is real value in thinking about it as a system, an ecology, or what-have-you. - Alex -- // // Alexander Halavais // Graduate Director of Informatics // University at Buffalo School of Informatics // contact info: http://alex.halavais.net //

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Call for articles for an international refereed journal of technology on campus
by Stewart Marshall 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

"Campus-Wide Information Systems" (an international journal of technology on campus) http://www.dec.uwi.edu/smarshall/cwis/index.html *** Call for Papers *** Publish your research papers or case studies in this international refereed journal. "Campus-Wide Information Systems" provides comprehensive and independent coverage on the management, use and integration of information resources and educational technologies on campus. All articles are double-blind peer reviewed and a swift and fair reviewing process is guaranteed. "Campus-Wide Information Systems" is classified as refereed in Ulrichs International Periodicals Directory and so articles count as research publications in government research output measures. The journal would be pleased to receive submissions on: Innovations in Teaching and Learning with Technology e.g. The changing roles of teacher and student, Technology and student learning, Teaching in new technology environments, Interactive teaching modules, Standards and assessment. New Technologies e.g. Wireless communication and instruction, Voice recognition, Mobile computing, Advanced networking applications. IT Implementation and Support e.g. Designing and developing computer networks, Technology support services, Managing web-based resources, Digital libraries, Information repositories. Planning and Administration e.g. Developing and maintaining networks effectively and efficiently, Managing a networked environment, Infrastructure, Course management systems, Accreditation of distance learning programs, Campus portals, Computer security, Intellectual property. *** Submission *** Articles should be between 2,000 and 4,000 words in length. Case studies should be issue- or results-focussed examples of technology applications in higher education. For further information please go to: http://www.dec.uwi.edu/smarshall/cwis/index.html Please email submissions to: stewart.marshall(a)uwichill.edu.bb Professor Stewart Marshall CWIS Regional Editor (Caribbean and the Americas) Distance Education Centre The University of the West Indies Barbados

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RE: [Air-l] we need a new word?
by Niels Windfeld Lund 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

-- Hi what about digital documentation ? If we consider websites, chatmessages, SMS, emails etc. as digital documents, then digital documentation will cover all this and be complementary to digital communication, but stressing the material aspects. Document can be split into two parts: doceo, I demonstrate, and mentum, means and results of acts using some means. I know I may have to argue more in lenght later. A new book presenting : Deflating information. From science studies to documentation. Toronto: University of Toronto Press. best Niels WL Documentation Studies, University of Tromso, Norway ---Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces(a)listserv.aoir.org on behalf of Barry Wellman Sent: Sat 3/19/2005 4:44 PM To: aoir list Cc: Subject: [Air-l] we need a new word? I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA). And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS). What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness. So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word. Barry _____________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman at chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 To network is to live; to live is to network _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ The Air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/

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