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by MSJANEW＠aol.com 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

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RE: [Air-l] AoIR conference venues
by Charlie Breindahl 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

> I fully concur with Dr. Wu. Why is it that every > person on the planet (except Canadians and Mexicans > who are not crooks) has to be fingerprinted by the > FBI? Is it because Canadians and Mexicans are more > honest? Or, is it because these two countries border > the U.S. of A. and are no threat whatsoever? In light > of this, I think the AoIR conference should be held > anywhere but the US. > > Peter Jakubowicz > The Chinese University of Hong Kong I think that the discussion so far has framed the issue as being aligned with the digital divide between internet "have and have-not" countries (Mexico possibly excepted). I am not sure this is the case. Many Europeans are uncomfortable with current US politics as well. It has not gone unnoticed that the present US government refers to European hesitance towards the US policy in Iraq in less than flattering terms. We Europeans sometimes find it hard to understand why the US government would expect its friends in Europe to go to war in Iraq for reasons that seem somewhat dubious (weapons of mass destruction, etc.) and simultaneously tutor us about how to avoid terrorism and further democracy in the world. Subjects like nationalism, terrorism, fundamentalist beliefs, and democracracy versus security have unfortunately been part of the political agenda in Europe since the early seventies. Examples include, but are not limited to, the Troubles in Northern Ireland, the Basque separatist organization ETA, the German Baader-Meinhof group, the Italian Red Brigades, the November 17 group in Greece, German nationalist skinheads, etc. We have - unfortunately - a great deal of experience in treating such problems. The present US government acts as if terrorism was a new problem predominantly concerning the US. All this is background and only periferally relevant to the question of AoIR conference locations. What really matters is this: I don't feel comfortable about going to the US anymore. I feel that my personal security is threatened and my dignity is violated in ways that are probably hard to understand if you are a US national. Electronic fingerprints that go to vast registers, rampant collection of information on foreign travellers, suspects held captive for undetermined periods of time, political radicals killed with remotely controlled missiles, electronic conversations monitored automatically and recorded routinely, credit card transactions traced at a whim... it gives me the creeps! It is directly against my beliefs about the information age and all that I have taught my students about information policy. I think it is very real and has very little to do with hysterics. With regrets, Charlie -- Charlie Breindahl External Lecturer Department of Media, Cognition, and Communication Division of Film and Media Studies University of Copenhagen Web: http://staff.hum.ku.dk/hitch/ Phone: +45 35 32 81 14 Mobile: +45 51 92 15 98 E-mail: hitch(a)hum.ku.dk "For the modern Don Quixote, the windmills have been preprogrammed to turn into knights" - Janet H. Murray

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Re: [Air-l] minorities
by J. J. 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

>>Ok, so we dont have the Pentagon budget. Can we afford the loss? I think >>that our priorities >>should be put first, then the money will follow, not >>the other way around. >then we go bankrupt:) no thanks:) sustainability is the first goal. if >we don't exist anymore, we >can't have goals.... I am sorry, if I didnt make my point clear. Historically, division between mainstream and its unquestionably justified reasons for sustainability and marginalized others has brought nothing but misery to those who do not make decisions, about whose interests are defended (sustained) and at what price. If nothing else, we should have learned by now, how to be more respectful to our experience. Jarek >Jeremy Hunsinger >Center for Digital Discourse and Culture >() ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail >/\ - against microsoft attachments > >_______________________________________________ >Air-l-aoir.org mailing list >Air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org >http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx

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Re: [Air-l] Hungarian and others
by J. J. 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

Hi Laszlo, Do you have any good ideas why this is the case? Jarek Perhaps this is also an interesting aspect of the problem: about two years ago the complete Hungarian Internet (texts only) was downloadable to a single (few GB) hard disc. And there are no essential changes in the last two years. Laszlo _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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Re: [Air-l] Why not make Aoir 5.0 "Virtual conference"?
by Lauren Langman 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

Dear Wu Mei : I hate to sound like a sociologist, but I am one, let me say that human beings do have needs for networks and connections that can only be realized face to face contact, even if we all had webcams and could see each other, it would not be enough. I know its a bit essentialist, but I am not a pomo, but I would go so far as to say that contect, connection and attachment are in our DNA. While professional and colleagial relations are not like deep friendships and relationships, it does happen that meetings can lead to such (I met my wife at a meeting. But even for our scientific work we gain much from sitting and talking with each other in a face to face context. As Durkhiem, in his analysis of primitive religion, the otherwise dispersed clans came together once a year to affirm their common roots, shared identities, and rekindle the bonds of solidarity. In this way, many of our conferences serve very similar functions. And while most of us are quite comfortable with emails, websites, blogs, virtual communities and who knows, someday teledildonics, a community of scholars, not all that different from premodern Australian nomads, do have a need to come together and enact rituals and beliefs that join us together in a scholarly community. And as we know, those of us who do internet stuff, from a number of disciplines, are not typically likely to meet each other in most other venues. Hope to see you in Chicago next year, and perhaps have another great dinner. Warmly, Lauren >>> meiwu(a)umac.mo 10/05/04 9:02 PM >>> As we are all researchers on the "virtual world", why should we still keep to the old, pre-Internet tradition of holding an annual conference in a "real venue," but not in a "virtual venue"? All the technologies to hold a virtual conference are available. What we need is to be more innovative in practising what we have been campaigning in our research: being global and connecting to as many people as possible with the help of the internet. What I suggest is that Aoir 5.0 could select one "real venue," and at the same time, set up a "virtual venue" for those who have registered, but for whatever reasons (be entry regulations, cost consideration, busy schedules, hurricanes, etc..) could not come to the "real venue" to participate, specially for panel discussions. Virtual participants can also organize local panels. Just throw my little thought here. Wu Mei University of Macau _______________________________________________ Air-l-aoir.org mailing list Air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org

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Re: [Air-l] How can we identify critical thinkers in the sample of a research project?
by Jeremy J. Shapiro 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

The person to write to about this is Stephen Brookfield (sdbrookfield(a)stthomas.edu) he is one of the world experts on critical thinking. Jeremy Shapiro At 02:49 PM 10/5/2004, your brain seems to have output the following: -------------------------------------------------------- Dear colleagues I am in the middle of designing a questionnaire to get information about the sample of my study (Phd degree). In addition to obtaining all necessary demographic information I also need to find out about their previous critical reflection experiences-if any- so that I can identify the critical thinkers in my sample. Would anyone have any knowledge or ideas on how can I identify this via the questionnaire method and/or related theory-critical reflection indicators? Many thanks. Kate Pavlidou aikaterini.pavlidou(a)durham.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Air-l-aoir.org mailing list Air-l-aoir.org(a)listserv.aoir.org http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org --------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Air-l] Hungarian and others
by Bram Dov Abramson 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

>Partly it's out of date but also it's skewed by >measuring pages on secure servers. Those are >largely used for e-commerce and a very high >proportion of them are in English (or at least >were in English as of 2001, it's hard to say how >that might have changed by now). If I remember right, the OECD report in question's look at links to secure servers (https, really) -- outsourced to Netcraft, who did the actual work -- was an explicit attempt to measure e-commerce activity, not general Web activity (which is being referred to here as "Internet" activity, apparently). I think that right next to it was a comparative figure for http (non-secure) links, where English was a bit lower. >Some statistical work was done for UNESCO here last year that indicates >that there is vastly less language diversity on the internet than is >routinely claimed. > >And I'm talking about whole orders of magnitude of difference, >here, not just a few percentage points. Elijah, that sounds quite interesting -- can you describe the methodology? cheers Bram

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How can we identify critical thinkers in the sample of a research project?
by kate.pavlidou＠netceptions.net 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Dear colleagues I am in the middle of designing a questionnaire to get information about the sample of my study (Phd degree). In addition to obtaining all necessary demographic information I also need to find out about their previous critical reflection experiences-if any- so that I can identify the critical thinkers in my sample. Would anyone have any knowledge or ideas on how can I identify this via the questionnaire method and/or related theory-critical reflection indicators? Many thanks. Kate Pavlidou aikaterini.pavlidou(a)durham.ac.uk

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Re: [Air-l] Hungarian and others
by Mark Warschauer 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Here's the paper I was looking for. Based on data collected in 2002, the authors estimate that 72% of public Web pages are in English (a percent that is, according to the authors, unchanged since 1999). Unfortunately, they only report on the most frequent 12 languages, and Basque is not included. People can judge for themselves the methodology. The article is publicly available at: http://www.dlib.org/dlib/april03/lavoie/04lavoie.html Mark At 4:06 PM +0000 10/5/04, P.J. Oiarzabal wrote: >Hi, >Could you let me know where did you get the statistics? I would like >to know the percentage of websites on minority languages such as >Basque. >Thanks > >Pedro J. Oiarzabal

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Hungarian and others 2
by Jakob Linaa Jensen 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Let me add to my previous comment that I think we should definitely welcome contributions from other language areas and countries than those traditionally contributing. My comments addressed the question of the working language for the AoIR conferences alone, just to avoid any misunderstandings .... :-)

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