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Re: [Air-L] my breakfast
by Julio Meneses 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

err.., sorry but i had to say it also. speaking about twitter appropriation, please, do it there :-) if not, convince us to speak about eating and list servers (something i'm not specially interested, though...) cheers, On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Meryl Krieger <meryl.krieger(a)gmail.com> wrote: > sorry Barry - you took advantage of not having a 140 character limit - too > much verbage! :) LOL > > this is a fun and fascinating thread. I'm afraid I'm just a lurker on this > one, but I'm reading every post, if that's incentive to anyone to continue > it! > > Best regards and happy November, > > Meryl Krieger > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Christophe Prieur < > christophe.prieur(a)liafa.jussieu.fr> wrote: > >> >> Well, AoIR-ists, I will cater to your tastes: >>> >>> [...] >>> >> >> >> Mmmh, 140 characters please ;) >> >> -- Christophe. >> >> >> >> Le 2 nov. 09 à 21:13, Barry Wellman a écrit : >> >> >> Well, AoIR-ists, I will cater to your tastes: >>> >>> I had a glass of fresh organic orange juice first (don't know which type >>> of orange, alas). >>> >>> Followed by 3 teaspoons of organic maple-tinged sheep yogurt (Ewenty >>> Farms, Ontario -- don't know which type of sheep), topped with fresh >>> organic blackberries and raspberries >>> >>> Followed by one of Sharon Wohl's delicious non-sugar muffins for diabetes >>> >>> While sipping Prince of Darkness coffee from Ideal Coffee Co in Toronto, >>> roasted last week, but freshly ground this AM. >>> >>> This tells you a lot about me, but I am not going to repeat everyday. (In >>> any event, it would basically be Ibid, except the days I travel or have >>> Whole-Os). >>> >>> BTW, the person who started me off thinking about this theme was a guy. >>> Sorry, Caroline -- you did have a 50% accuracy probability. >>> >>> Barry Wellman >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director >>> Department of Sociology 725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388 >>> University of Toronto Toronto Canada M5S 2J4 twitter:barrywellman >>> http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-3963 >>> Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> The Air-L(a)listserv.aoir.org mailing list >>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org >>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: >>> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org >>> >>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers: >>> http://www.aoir.org/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The Air-L(a)listserv.aoir.org mailing list >> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org >> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: >> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org >> >> Join the Association of Internet Researchers: >> http://www.aoir.org/ >> > > > > -- > J. Meryl Krieger > Ph.D., Folklore & Ethnomusicology > Associate Instructor, Indiana University > Adjunct Instructor, Ivy Tech Community College > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L(a)listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/ > > -- Julio Meneses Assistant professor of Statistics & Research Methods Education on the Network Society research group Dept. Psychology and Educational Sciences The Open University of Catalonia _____________________________________________ blog: http://www.zanadoria.com fem recerca: http://tinyurl.com/femrecerca _____________________________________________

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facebook, twitter and annoyances
by Barry Wellman 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

1. Nancy, I think it is more complex. What if there are really interesting people whose posts are often filled with gems, but at the same posts some self-infatuated or status update stuff ("going for breakfast") ("sitting in my garden") stuff which is not interesting to almost all. 2. Christophe, I don't understand why you have included my name. I don't think we ever met, and you certainly don't know me. I had nothing to do with the CNN story. Barry Wellman _______________________________________________________________________ S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director Department of Sociology 725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388 University of Toronto Toronto Canada M5S 2J4 twitter:barrywellman http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-3963 Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php _______________________________________________________________________

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Re: [Air-L] Twittering
by Alex Randall 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

5.25's aren't toooo hard. There are services that will transfer files. Lawyers from eBay wanted to see some of my work from 1983 and we had to get the original model for the Boston Computer Exchange off of old 5.25 disks that I had in storage. Our demo we showed at Comdex in 1983 and 1984. All stored on 5.25 disks. All part of a law suit over who created the earliest system for buying on-line. While we had no trouble getting a service to copy the data to modern media, it is only from 26 years ago... Imagine trying to get data off a really OLD computer, C/PM or pre-PC era computers. All of my writing from the 80's is inaccessible to me now. Those of word processors made files in ASCII, but the programs no longer work under Windows. So it is effectively gone. Even if it was well stored, backed up and archived, there is no way to get that data back into use. I notice that pretty much everything from that era is NOT on the Internet. It is hard to find news items from minor journals from before 2000. Lots of articles about what we were doing in the 80's and 90's has not been brought up to the Internet, so there is a sense that "history" has a bump in the road. Google is not able to find stuff that never got brought into the current media. I really wonder if the children of today will have any sense of their personal history or if it will all disappear. We talk as if facebook is forever, we warn people not to leave a digital footprint that will embarrass them later - - but all it takes is a glitch or a bankruptcy and all the data will be gone. If you have ever had a hard drive fail and you lost everything, you understand how ephemeral our data is. As a consequence, I am back to writing an old fashioned book - on paper.... Alex Randall > > Alex that is a very profound way of stating this problem. One boss of > mine who had been computing in research since the 1960's kept an old Mac > in his office. I have managed to copy a few 5.25 floppies for my family > to newer media. > > I wonder if anyone here studies archiving. I do no really but have been > an archiving clerk archiving the Canadian census off paper to microfilm. > It took about 300 clerks 1 year to archive two years of our census. > > BTW older computers can be found for free in my city to allow you to > update media. 5.25 drives still work in some of my machines. > > > > > > Peter Timusk, > B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University > Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa. > just trying to stay linear. > Read by hundreds of lurkers every week. > kiitos paljon, merci, thank you and muchas gracias for reading. >

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Re: [Air-L] Facebook, Twitter and annoyances
by Shobha Vadrevu 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

I am really enjoying this discussion, because of the way it merges personal reflection with theoretical knowledge (a convergence that Twitter and Facebook provide precisely because the same people post such widely varying comments- from food-related ones to academia-related ones). I wonder how much of what is posted on Twitter and Facebook is a response to the way in which the updates are elicited. On Twitter, the question above the comment box asks: what are you doing? Naturally people respond accordingly. On Facebook, the question is: what's on your mind? With regard to food, both sites get posts about culinary experiences, but perhaps they are presented differently partly because of the way the information is framed by the question. Selected audience also might be a factor, as some have expressed so well on this list. When I make a post about food, I address a part of my total potential audience base. When I post about movies, it might be another part. Posts about my kids go out to yet another part. The point is that people can choose to read or to ignore. That is the beauty of social media- active choice. I have to say my pet peeve with regard to Twitter so far is that when people try to squash all their ideas into 140 characters, sometimes I can't figure out what they are actually trying to say! Shobha Vadrevu Masters Student Institute of Education

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Re: [Air-L] Food updates
by Jacqueline Vickery 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

As many others have noted, often food updates receive the most comments on FB statuses (my simple status: "Parmesan makes everything better" is definitely one of my most commented updates on my FB). I just thought I'd point out the obvious though, that this very thread discussing food on AoIR has generated more replies than any other topics the past few days. This is certainly not considered a banal or trivial space, and yet here we are discussing food. And just as the conversation from "Facebook annoyances" has evolved to address all these different food-related remarks, a similar thing often happens in response to food updates on Twitter/FB. Food is simultaneously embedded within many cultural and personal implications, but on the surface is also a rather benign topic. Thus it seems to have the potential to lead to so many different conversations that aren't really about food at all. Food updates often function as some sort of back door approach to discussing personal memories, routines, tastes, habits, relationships, etc. perhaps because food is simultaneously so personal and yet seemingly so trivial. Just my two cents on why food updates generate so many comments (on FB and apparently on the listserv!) Best, - jacqueline -- Jacqueline Vickery Senior Editor, FlowTV.org Doctoral Student University of Texas at Austin Department of Radio-Television-Film http://www.jvickery.com/

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my breakfast news, terminated
by Barry Wellman 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

FIVE peeps have asked me to repeatedly post my breakfast daily. It's boring. I eat the same thing every day. My life is so complex, that in my semi-conscious state, I treat breakfast as a constant (a healthy one to be sure, thanks to Bev), but not as a variable. I'm astounded. I know that outgo has been studied, just Google "coprology". But outside of Truman Capote & WK Kellogg, who studies intake? Barry Wellman _______________________________________________________________________ S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director Department of Sociology 725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388 University of Toronto Toronto Canada M5S 2J4 twitter:barrywellman http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-3963 Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php _______________________________________________________________________

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kiwanja.net >Mobile Applications Database
by McKiernan, Gerard [LIB] 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

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Re: [Air-L] facebook, twitter and annoyances
by Suzanne Aurilio 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

"Why is it that, when we go online, we want to optimize for the brilliant conversations only? Why do we want to reduce our connections down to only one facet? Is this because of the asynchronicity? Is it because of our self-involvement? Or something else? For me it's not so much about optimizing or reductions but about being aware of my need to calibrate my attention based on my mood, energy level and interest. I've started playing with Twitter lists to see what effect that has on my experience. I also have a need for privacy, in both directions and I equate degrees of privacy with degrees of intimacy and ultimately vulnerability, all the same experiences we have in f2f contexts. I think I've become less tolerant of the quirkiness of humanity because I can feel so utterly inundated with humanity online. I should probably add that I don't own a television nor consume American media anywhere near the average, which is to me another form and node of involvement or in my case the lack there of. Cheers, Suzanne ~~ Suzanne Aurilio Assistant Director pICT -People, Information and Communication Technologies San Diego State University 5500 Campanile Drive San Diego, CA 92182-1623 619-594-2953 Office AD220C pict.sdsu.edu cdi.sdsu.edu sdsu-aztlan.wikispaces.com SL Aurilio Oh Twitter saurili Delicious saurilio

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BookTV > Connected: The Surprising Power of Our Social Networks and How They Shape Our Lives
by McKiernan, Gerard [LIB] 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Colleagues/ Social Network Analysis Goes Public ... /Gerry BookTV > Connected: The Surprising Power of Our Social Networks and How They Shape Our Lives / Nicholas Christakis; James Fowler About the Program > A social scientist argues that almost every choice we make has something to do with the social networks we belong to. Using studies and statistics, Dr. Fowler discusses how all behaviors are contagious, including overeating, suicide and choice of romantic partner. The event is in San Diego. About the Authors > -Nicholas Christakis > Dr. Christakis is a Harvard University professor in the departments of health care policy and sociology. In 2009, Time magazine named him one of the 100 most influential people in the world. - James Fowler > Dr. Fowler is an associate professor at the University of California, San Diego. He teaches in the Department of Political Science and the Center for Wireless and Population Health Systems. A/V Now Available AND Future Airings > Saturday, November 7th at 11:15pm (ET) / Sunday, November 8th at 1pm (ET) Links Available At [ http://tinyurl.com/yhvaxva ] Enjoy ! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 gerrymck(a)iastate.edu There Is No Answer, Only Solutions / Olde Irish Saying The Future Is Already Here, It's Just Not Evenly Distributed Attributed To William Gibson, SciFi Author / Coined 'Cyberspace

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Re: [Air-L] Interviewing via MSN
by Becker, C. (Carmen) 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Dear all, thanks again for all your helpful responses. As promised you find below a list of the literature recommendations on interviewing using IM. Best, Carmen General literature on interviewing: Holstein, James A., and Jaber F. Gubrium. 2003. Inside interviewing: new lenses, new concerns. Thousand Oaks/ London: Sage Publications. Spradley, James P. 1979. The ethnographic interview. Wadsworth Inc. Literature on IM interviewing: Ardèvol, Elisenda; Bertrán, Marta; Callén, Blanca; Pérez, Carmen (2003), ‘Etnografía virtualizada: la observación participante y la entrevista semiestructurada en línea’. Athenea Digital 3, pp 72-92 (primavera 2003) Ayling, R., & Mewse, A. J. (2009). Evaluating Internet interviews with gay men. Qualitative Health Research, 19(4), 566-576. Chen, P. and Hinton, S.M. (1999) 'Realtime Interviewing Using the World Wide Web', Sociological Research Online, vol. 4, no. 3. De Koster, Willem and Dick Houtman (2008), 'Stormfront is Like a Second Home to Me": On Virtual Community Formation by Right-Wing Extremists.' /Information, Communication and Society/ 11(8), 1153-1175. Dunkels, E., & Enochsson, A. (2007). Interviews with young people using online chat. In M. Quigley (Ed.), Encyclopedia of information ethics and security (pp. 403-410). Hersley: Idea Group Reference. van Eeden-Moorefield, B., Proulx, C. M., & Pasley, K. (2008). A comparison of Internet and face-to-face (ftf) qualitative methods in studying the relationships of gay men. Journal of GLBT Family Studies, 4(2), 181-204. Gilbert, N. (2008).Researching Social Life (3rd edition). chapter 16, London: Sage Publications. Kivitis, Joelle. 2005. Online Interviewing and the Research Relationship. In Virtual Methods. Issues in Social Research on the Internet. Berg Publisher. Kazmer, M.M. and Xie, B. (2008) ' Qualitative interviewing in internet studies: Playing with the media, playing with the method', Information, Communication and Society, vol. 11, no. 2, pp. 251-278. Malta, S. (2009) Qualitative Interviewing of Older Adults: Offline versus Online Methods. Proceedings 8th National Conference of Emerging Researchers in Ageing. A New Era for Ageing Research: What's in Your Toolkit? pp. 133-137. www.med.monash.edu/sphc/haru/conference09 Markham, Annette. 1998. Life Online: Researching Real Experience in Virtual Space. Alta Mira Press. O'Connor, H. (2006) Online Interviews, <http://www.geog.le.ac.uk/orm/interviews/intcontents.htm> Al-Saggaf, Y., & Williamson, K. (2004). Online communities in Saudi Arabia: Evaluating the impact on culture through online semi-structured interviews. Forum: Qualitative Social Research, 5(3). Voida, A., Mynatt, E. D., Erickson, T., & Kellogg, W. A. (2004, April 24–29). Interviewing over instant messaging. Paper presented at the CHI 2004, Vienna, Austria. see http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=986060 Carmen Becker ----------------------------------------- research.carmenbecker.net Radboud University Nijmegen Postbus 9103 6500 HD NIJMEGEN The Netherlands

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